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Civilising The Average Indian Male

Civilising The Average Indian Male

May 30, 2013
Its women who civilise men, its mothers who raise these boys who grow into men who harass women on city streets.


According to lots of media reports across the World Wide Web, women are choosing NOT to come to India by the planeload. This season has been pretty tough for tourism operators who specialise in women travel (Women Travel Mother India) to a land where women tourists have been forced to leap from hotel room balconies to avoid unwanted attention of the salacious kind. For the male traveller to India, it’s somewhat different - India is paradise to the average bloke for whom all this gender hysteria is getting a wee bit too threatening. Girls might wanna have fun but blokes really just want to be blokes.

I mean to say, if you could live in a world where there was no need to even bother to civilise yourself in order to find wife because your mummy was going to take care of that for you and present you with a ready wrapped bride at just the right time in your life, where you could burp and fart and scratch your balls whilst staring slack jawed at the nearest woman, where you could brush into the delicious curves and bumps of any random woman of your choosing on a city street, where people stepped out of your way on the street, where you could make loud and suggestive comments to your friends about a woman walking by, where you could hold hands with your bestie and hang out for endless hours just shooting the breeze and where you could go home at the end of the day to a house where at least two women would treat you like a king, what are the chances that you would think you were in some kind of bloke paradise?

Most women who travel to India will report a sense of discomfort if they travel alone in the land where only the goddess aspect of the female energy is worshipped in theory but not in practice. Reports of men staring, touching, groping and making lewd comments abound and god knows I have had my share of that in my years of being a woman alone in India.

I have been told that it’s a cop out to mention that rape and sexual abuse of women is a world-wide phenomenon, and that while we live in a patriarchal society rape will always be a very handy method of social control. This is by no means a way of excusing or negating the reality of the situation in India but simply something I know from more than forty years of gender activism and working with survivors of sexual abuse. The lessons from those years are a bitter pill for me to swallow when I ask myself what my years of activism has won for women in my own country, for my daughters and granddaughters. Pretty much nothing. We kid ourselves that we have managed to get wage parity but there is still a terrible imbalance there as any woman who has hit her head on the corporate glass ceiling will testify to. Is life any safer for women since I began my No Excuse for Sexual Abuse campaign as the community educator for the Rape Crisis Centre in my local community? Nope.

What has changed is that women are no longer re victimised by the system should she report a rape. Cops have undergone specialised training and sexual abuse teams have been set up in police stations. Doctors have also undergone training in more sensitive ways to deal with a survivor of sexual assault. The legal profession has been bought into line and no longer is a woman’s sexual history of any relevance in a rape trial. What has changed is that the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff now has new tyres and the survivor is more often than not believed, respected and listened to by a team of sexual assault specialists. But it’s still an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. Women and girls are still raped, their lives radically altered and damaged in ways that are terribly difficult and often impossible to overcome. No woman who has been raped or sexually abused will ever be the same woman as she was before the violence. But her voice will be heard.

That’s something at least, and something is always better than nothing as we say in India. Rape like drinking and driving is not socially acceptable or excusable any more. Men have been sensitised by the actions of radical feminists to think before they speak. In fact we have civilised them. We demanded change from them in our homes, in our workplaces, in schools, in training centres and universities. Now men have to think before they speak and they do so in fear of being verbally challenged by any right thinking woman. Men will not civilise themselves within a patriarchal society but women do that work. Mothers do it, workmates do it, sisters and cousins do it, teachers do it. Pretty much every woman who a man meets in the West will demand certain markers of what we consider ‘civilised behaviour’ from our men. The poor dears have been forced to think before they speak on gender issues lest some woman challenges his stance.

Its women who civilise men, its mothers who raise these boys who grow into men who harass women on city streets.

40 Comments

  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    22.06.13 09:13 AM
    I came across an organization that is genuinely, extensively and seriously engaged in in the fields of female literacy, formal education for children, nonformal education, rural employment, income generating skills, SHG formation, community health and awareness programs on various social issues. The activities reach out to poor and marginalized women, adolescents, and disadvantaged and marginalized children from rural and urban areas of Kisangani district.

    We need such organization in every nook and corner of India

    Educate the marginalized Rural Indian women so that they help the society by leading a decent life and understand the need to bring up educated and decent children: Is the only way India could one day be admired by the rest of the world some day. This continuous bragging by the so-called educated women being superior to the Indian man should stop. The world should stop arguing who is better or more civilized the man or the woman.

    I would say people who encourage such talk are very average, swollen headed and unintelligent. They need to understand what education really is. It has become an accepted fact that any race between countries like in the Arms Race has caused only destruction to this world. The race between man and woman should be focused on a man being very masculine and woman being very feminine the very purpose they were created and intelligence of course to understand the difference.

    http://www.azadindia.org/azad-hind.html
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    17.06.13 01:50 AM
    Well! Well! Well! What do I say when I read news like this:

    Here’s my rupee for an 11-year-old Kiwi naughty boy who fathered a child after having sex with his school friend’s mum. This Case prompts NZ minister to ask why women can't be charged with rape.

    Boys seem to learn faster about sexual feelings from mothers in Paradise Island.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10890674
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    09.06.13 10:43 PM
    @Dr.B>S>Rawat,

    In changing mindsets of wrong doers is not calling them sons of bitches. If any one worked for forty years the mothers of today in that immediate environment should have been better mothers bringing up decent sons.

    Correcting criminals needs a kind of smartness, is not something that everyone is born with. People involved in correcting a whole society of wrong
    doers need specialized education too on how to approach the problem with effective measures.

    We must educate ourselves to educate others. I have been to India many times. I never came across burping, farting and ball scratching males whilst staring slack jawed at the nearest woman in India.

    You see them in western beaches where women run around in shoestrings.

    Where in the hell is "Mother" India? Why the heck do foreigners want to come to the hell hole that India is according to this article?

    If I was promoting tourism I would promote all Indians and foreigners to go to New Zealand.
  • Dr.B>S>Rawat
    By
    Dr.B>S>Rawat
    09.06.13 06:04 PM
    @ Rajpriya

    The Indian culture is in transitional phase from cohesive rural society to free for all "who cares, it's not my business" type of loose urban one, where all types of good and bad sanskaars are making a strange mix of unrestrained and unguided culture. Strangely, the govt., the social thinkers, the teachers and even the parents are allowing themselves to be swept with the current to which never direction it is blowing. And some so called human right activists are stoking such unwanted fires. Luckily now groups like this are appearing and bringing hope with them.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    09.06.13 05:24 PM
    @Balbir Singh Rawat,

    I was thinking of this hut problem my self many times and you came out with it at the right time. As you say that an era now gone with the wind.

    The world has changed with technology in the wrong hands. The attempt of this article is to swim against the current with no proper or popular support of the law that rules or governs India and society that consists of a majority of poor and illiterate.

    The rich and mighty in India also are party to everything that's wrong with an attitude "its not my business".
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    09.06.13 05:11 PM
    I too disagree with many points raised in this article that are said to have caused the perils of India as it is seen today. If your engagement for more than forty years of gender activism and working with survivors of sexual abuse has not brought an end to what you say is all wrong in India, then I believe your approach to this whole problem was way off the target you intended to hit.

    A small mistake by an Architect can make the whole building collapse.

    You blame everything on an Indian mother for what the sons do in the cities. The WWW you say that reports on women travel is the same media that publishes explicit material that is corrupting the men, women and children alike in the entire world. The same WWW also reports that women from the rich Western countries travel to countries like Jamaica, Turkey, Spain, and the like to have sex that their own husbands can not provide.

    One woman has leapt from a hotel balcony in India. I know of many women who have leapt out of hotel windows in many other countries. Many countries of touristic interest pose immense danger to women travelling alone. Probably this article sensationalizes the behavior of Indian men who were ignored by the lawmakers of India ever since it became Independent.

    It is the lawmakers of any country that have the sole responsibility of bringing laws into place for a society to follow. In the absence of laws a huge country like India with its diverse cultural, religious, regional and language differences with a population of 1.22 billion cannot be compared to New Zealand with a population of only 4.6 million people.

    I have news that youth aged 15-24 commit suicides in New Zealand and the antisocial behavior of youth is on the increase over there.

    I like to point out there is a trend that more children are being abused in western countries in recent times because they are far more easier to control than grown up women who resist.

    The last part of the article says you have changed men to do the right thing. Your statement about “Pretty much every woman who a man meets in the West will demand certain markers of what we consider ‘civilised behaviour’ from our men” Is grossly overstated. Wife beatings, killings, and 80% divorcees in the west annuls this great assumption.

    As long as keep attacking the Indian man you will be applauded and that would give a visa to write more such stories. However, if you try to tell me you single handedly could change the Indian man with whatever movement you are engaged in, - it is hard stuff to believe.
    No Indian woman ever raises a son and teaches him to rape women in the cities. You turn a blind eye to sex and gender related problems of the west and I am surprised you have an audience that applauds your views.
    In all the years I have worked in my profession I know every different problem needs a different approach. I don’t keep shouting loud about those problems. If the approach is wrong you lose your way to end that problem. You don’t seem to be professional in dealing with the Indian man’s problem.

    Your problems are the Indian mother, Indian man and the society you have been a part of for forty years and a travel business suffering with the lack foreign tourists that bring $$.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2278964/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2302561/

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2273255/

    Who would you think is responsible for the above stories of the western children? Western mothers?
  • Balbir Singh Rawat
    By
    Balbir Singh Rawat
    09.06.13 03:36 PM
    @ Rajpriya.
    Yes learning by seeing is the root cause that makes childre what they are .Being born and brought up in one single room,/hut with young parents and siblings, playing with neighbourhood boys and girls, watching what bad things even one or two elder ones do, no body chiding for bad behaviour, even parents supporting their childrens' bad behaviour reported by neighbours, quarrelling parents, etc.,are some of the many such negative things, that hone the character of the young ones. Cinema, pornographic magazines, sibling stories of "bravado", are other influencing factors. Despite all this, the baddies are only a miniscule fraction of the total young males in any human habitation, it makes the "whole lake smell bad". I think we need to revive the old system of social education by elders. If any elder sees some junior behaving bad, he should warn the erring one to behave properly and the whole society should support the elders correcting the juniors. When I was a child, back in 1937-45 era, this system worked efficiently to the delight of all.
    BSR
  • Balbir Singh Rawat
    By
    Balbir Singh Rawat
    09.06.13 03:35 PM
    It is heartening to read many young Indian women in this blog. (Males from India are strangely absent). Yes in a nuclear family, mothers see an old time caregiver in theirs solo sons. They pamper them ( a sort of bribe giving) at the cost of care for girl child (Ultrasound and reducing male female ratio). The result is non doer (or selfish) sons, and well honed and odds surviving daughters. These very married daughters are more helpful to ageing parents than the well settled and married sons "busy educating their own children. More over, there is vast difference in the modes of child raising between different socio-economic and edu-intellectual classes of Indian society. There is vast heterogenicity , so what is typically Indian is impossible to define. The ones needing to be educated are those from some mis-ill-managed families.
    - a super senior Indian with averagely successfully raised family , BSRawat
  • Dianne Sharma Winter
    By
    Dianne Sharma Winter
    08.06.13 10:03 AM
    @Nisha thanks for your comments! I am not taking a swipe at Indian culture.. do what suits you best after all but what I am saying is that you cant blame the men for being insensitive when most phoren men I asked this question too, slyly smiled and refused to answer! poor darling fight with thier instincts every day in a world where it is not socially acceptable to behave in such ways any more BUT IT WAS! Times change because women demand it not men, who is gunna give up their privilege volunatarily?
  • Dianne Sharma Winter
    By
    Dianne Sharma Winter
    08.06.13 09:50 AM
    actually Rajpriya I disagree this article is not about people who have learned from watching wrong things but about a scotiety that rewards men for being uncivilised and punishes women who get in their way, my argument is that men everywhere in the world have oly become civillised because of the actions of radical feminists who demandec change on EVERY LEVEL, this is something that is a long way from happening here in India i fear
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    08.06.13 08:37 AM
    @Dr.B>S>Rawat,
    Good habits are what we learn from parents, our childhood playmates and schools. We observe the behaviour of environments in which we grow and know why need to do certain things that are normally accepted as decent.

    I don't really try to teach strangers but set examples for others who see me to follow. When I get up to give my seat in London Underground for goor reasons I get some inexplicable looks from people sitting around. Do I care?

    I do what Is right and if people learn from watching me do the right thing then soon others would follow.

    This article is about people who have learned watching the wrong things and others soon followed.
  • Dr.B>S>Rawat
    By
    Dr.B>S>Rawat
    07.06.13 11:32 AM
    @ Rajpreiya, Bravo. No Indian thinks of teaching the other nations the codes of conduct. When they like they ready Ramayan, Mahabharat and Gita. If they are trying to teach us their ways of life, they will have to transform the while Indian socio-economic fibre. Can they ?. This piece meal approach is irksome to both. In my opinion ofcourse.
  • Nisha
    By
    Nisha
    07.06.13 11:27 AM
    First of all, it is a nicely put article.
    Secondly, I do feel the weight on women about bringing up their boys so that they respect women. Thirdly, this is not a question which is limited to India, but also to the world. Parenting, ensuring that your child grows up not to be a pervert, is indeed a huge responsibility. I don't think the idea was to say that India and Indians in the general sense are bad, but the culture of not seeing sense is so unique to us. I know of numerous instances when boys in my school would make mistakes and not just boyish mistakes but harmful ones and most of the mothers would come up with - 'Mera beta toh aisa kar hi nahi sakta.'(My son, can never do this.) and then there is the whole thing of mothers pampering their sons so much that when the daughter-in-law steps into the picture, the men have this expectation that she should take care of his every need. It naturally implies that he thinks of himself as someone so helpless that he needs a nurse all the time with him. The man's mother certainly expects the daughter in law to take care of him as if he is still a young boy and not a fully grown up man. These issues, are particular to India, because here we expect the son to bring the daughter-in-law to his natal home rather than growing up, moving out and become independent of his own life. This kind of expectation has to be developed in the mind of the boy children right from a young age. Girls in India, hear this all the time, as soon as they hit puberty. They are prepared accordingly. 'You have to go and live and adjust with another family' is something that they hear all the time. But the boys seldom hear 'Grow up, behave properly because you have to get married to a woman and respect her family.'
    I am not so sure if we can just simply say that this is our Indian culture and it has its good and bad. That every culture has, but culture is not something static and unchanging thing. It is changed and developed by those living it too. So, instead of singing that my culture is the best culture, I would rather celebrate its diversity and actually do something to improve where it is becoming outdated. The current - socio - economic conditions expects the men to be more understanding and I will make sure that the young male children around me develop a healthy attitude by at least having a dialogue with them.
    I think that's the point being made here.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    07.06.13 09:58 AM
    This article only demotes Indians being uncivilised and the 20 years of promotions undone. If one happens to be in London and use the most common transport the Underground Tube trains or buses you will witness the seats for disabled occupied by very able young people and what makes me laugh is that they pretend to be fast asleep and wake up suddenly at their destination.

    No man offers a seat to a woman standing young or old with me being the only exception and I am Indian by birth.

    After being there for two months three weeks ago I would be there once again on Monday to witness them all over again.

    Unfortunately I do not know how to attach pictures to NRI comments.
  • Dr.B>S>Rawat
    By
    Dr.B>S>Rawat
    07.06.13 09:33 AM
    @ Dianne. No irony. I am not trying to compare.Just to say that all societies have their own systems, some good, some not so good. If some thing looks out of place to me, it i not necessary that it looks so to them too. There are socially many Indias, geographically , economically intellectually, genderly. In my region women are now the defacto decision makers. Oe Indian girl with an artificial leg has climbed Mt Everest (Sagar Mattha we call it, it means the sea churn). Things are improving, but at Indian pace. Have patience.
  • dianne
    By
    dianne
    07.06.13 08:04 AM
    @dr.bsrawat
    despite your attempt at irony, simple and common courtesies such as you mention are not offered to women IN PUBLIC here in India and I often wonder why? Men expect women to step out of their way, seem to believe that they own public space? what is that all about? There is no such thing as a second rate citizen in my country, where women are given respect and common courtesy which i find is the opposite here, but then I am lucky to come from a country where our culture is matriachial and women are respected as the givers and the takers of life and where are men are already civilised
  • Dr.B>S>Rawat
    By
    Dr.B>S>Rawat
    07.06.13 07:48 AM
    @Dianne. Yes, second citizens in Indian society, or for that matter in any society. I have seen it over three continents, it is so all over, yes the degrees differ. Getting up to offer seats to ladies (not men), helping them to comfortably sit on chairs, "Ladies first" etiquette, all signify the second place given to the women. In India there are greater extremities and spatial variations, and a vast number of men too are not the "first citizens". It is changing slowly, globalisation of customs is taking place.Many European, American girls are fed up with single handedly fending for themselves, they yearn for leisurely warm home life . Isn't it that one wants what she/he doesn't have?What matters is where who is happy, really happy.
  • HARRY
    By
    HARRY
    06.06.13 08:56 PM
    @ Dianne

    You don't think that is bit a of a BOLD statement by you even tho you may be right in what you are saying.

    HARRY
  • dianne
    By
    dianne
    06.06.13 08:24 PM
    @Ramakant I have been visiting India for 20 years and spend a lot of time promoting an India that goes beyond the pre conceptions that many phoren countries have of India. Still, its male dominated country where a lot of my women friends say that they feel like second class citizens and where men can do no wrong. I am not blaming women for being sexually assaulted and have had the same happen to me, but society allows this negation of the crime. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world
  • Balbir Singh Rawat
    By
    Balbir Singh Rawat
    04.06.13 02:05 PM
    I am only trying to say that despite his all virtues, he was not a sex maniac, the theme of this discussion. As for Duryodhana, he was the root cause of the war of Mahabhaarat in which all the cream of Indian valour was destroyed and the society had to build itself again from the ashes of its fore bearers. So horrible was the 18 day war between the Good and the Evil.
    Thanks for responding, it elated me.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    04.06.13 06:48 AM
    The United Kingdom has only half the population of India. In spite of this huge difference in population the British Govt. is involved for years in trying to curb Antisocial Behavior of the younger generation with little success. If one cares to read through the article headings listed below that appeared on BBC online news, would understand it is not India’s problem alone.

    Britain, a country with functional social welfare and educational systems in place seems to be far worse than India. In India every one shouts what’s wrong but no one does much to ease the growing problem unlike in Britain where measures are constantly being taken for the bettering of the society.

    Only time would tell how they would get this growing trend under control.

    "So what on earth is respect?"
    "Culture of respect: Family viewpoints".
    "Asbos 'demonising' young people".
    "British adults 'fear youngsters"
    "UK youths 'among worst in Europe"
    "Why UK teenagers struggle to cope"
    "The nothing to do generation"
    "Blair hits back over 'baby Asbos'
    "
    "Half of Asbo holders breach order"
    "Extra funding for 'respect zones'"
    "Funding to tackle bad behaviour"
    "Politeness 'missing from society'"
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6714407.stm
  • HARRY
    By
    HARRY
    03.06.13 08:14 PM
    @ Dr Rawat

    I think you are painting a good picture of Duryodhana as a good boy. But lets not forget it was him who actually caused that war by not compromising with pandavas but like you said it's other factors in the equations that led to that war.

    I have question for you, do you not think he was a bit of spoilt brat ( Duryodhana )? who normally didn't take no for an answer and because of his attitude led to his demise.

    I know it's not the perfect example which I gave above, but never the less he did do exactly that, which should not be done to a woman even to settle score.

    HARRY
  • Balbir Singh Rawat
    By
    Balbir Singh Rawat
    03.06.13 04:41 PM
    Dear HARRY,
    Parenting is done by even birds and animals. They have nature's laws of behaviour. Humans have social norms, some of these norms are universal, some are regional/national. Adherence to social norms willingly is the inner urge that comes from good parenting, from seeing examples, from teachings of elders and religion as well as from reading good books and viewing good things. And also from the general society in immediate vicinity. Duryodhana's mother Gandharee, had chosen to live blind folded in sympathy with her blind husband Dhritrashtra. This in no way was a bad example to her son , who also never sexually harassed any woman, he only disgraced Draupati as a revenge of her taunt that he is a son of blind parents. And his method was not good.
    Those who live in an environment of bad behaviour at home, in schools ( if they at all go to any ), and in their neighbour hoods and are never checked/reprimanded by elders for small lapses, get emboldened, specially when they leave their birth places and come to cities where no body bothers what who is doing. This social transition from close knit rural society to free for all urban environment misleads those who do not have the urge of self adopted social norms of behaviour. IT HAPPENS ALL OVER THE GLOBE, VARIATIONS ARE IN DEGREES.
    Balbir Singh Rawat.
  • Dr.B>S>Rawat
    By
    Dr.B>S>Rawat
    03.06.13 03:38 PM
    So pleasing to know that what ever it is, India is in the minds of all these foreign guys and gals who come over again and again to get a variety of such experiences that are not possible elsewhere.
    Thanks for wishing to change it for better, but then it wont be that attractive.
  • dianne
    By
    dianne
    03.06.13 01:03 PM
    I wish I had a ruppe for every time I heard the phrase "very naughty boy" in India! People say it in such a proud way as if a naughty boy was something admirable.. naughty boys grow up to be naughty men and who smacks them into line them? Not their mummies who actually need the boy to provide for her in her retirement years... quite frankly if i were a man I would be seriously considering relocating to India!! You guys are too too spoiled!!
  • HARRY
    By
    HARRY
    02.06.13 10:57 PM
    @ Dianne

    You hit the nail on the head. :)

    I think the problem is some of these women in these mens life are disillusioned regarding their behaviour in the society in general. They seem to think that their sons and brothers are good boys and like you said they get a wrapped bride so they don't need to adhere to the rules of society.

    This reminds me of a story from Mahabharata, when Duriyathans mother decided to do exactly that and it ended up in a war, when she disregarded her sons behaviour. I think either these women chooses to remain blind ( likes of Duriyathanas mother on what their sons do) or they choose not to listen to others. Either way this is not new and history is proof of that.

    The problem is, the man who does this sort of things are not the ones who are shaped by women around them but the sons of women likes of above who disregard everything.

    But my question is this, who is at blame here? and who should accept the fault, the women in his life or the man himself?

    As always nicely written.

    HARRY
  • Balbir Singh Rawat
    By
    Balbir Singh Rawat
    02.06.13 04:56 PM
    Average Indian eats with hands yes, because he washes his hands before eating. I taught many Europeans this art of enjoying food by having a feeling of the wholesomeness of one's own body. They saw the difference. Spoons and Forks (SF) were invented because then cold countries had little facilities of having running warm water and hand washing was not always possible at so many meal times a day. What they did before the the SF era?? As for staring, if one does not do in Rome as Roman do, staring will be there , even at same gender and old people. It happens with Saree clad Bindi wearing Indian women all over the world. They just laugh it off. No big deal.
    So much for today .
  • Ramakant
    By
    Ramakant
    02.06.13 04:30 PM
    Some interesting points in the article. Nice to know the perspective of someone from outside India and who has visited India on multiple occasions. Personally, I have known quite a few people who have travelled to India and have been gushing about their India visit for months later.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    02.06.13 06:42 AM
    @beinghindu,

    None of these dirty stories would have left the walls of India - if Indians weren't allowed to become Non-Resident.

    The west has corrupted them so much they refuse to accept what all was naturally acquired Indian things.
  • beinghindu
    By
    beinghindu
    02.06.13 01:16 AM
    Yes India (Indians) is bad coz India is cheep ( How could be this much cheapest in the world)
    yes India is bad coz avarage Indian stare (Yes How could be curious )
    Yes India is bad coz avarage Indian eat with bare hands (Yes Yes How could be…? yuck!!!)
    Yes India is bad coz average Indian wear shoes inside (Yessss How could be?)
    Yes India is bed coz average Indian are Dirty and Noisy (How could be?)
    Yes India is bad coz average Indian spit outside (How could be?)
    Yes India is bad coz average Indian does arranged marriage ( OMG
    ! how could …."bloody Indians")
    Yes India is bad coz average Indians don't wear bikini at beach (how could be!? poor girls)
    Yes India is bad coz average Indian don't punctual (how could?…bloody billions)

    is there anything still left in India which make attractive???????????
  • Navin
    By
    Navin
    01.06.13 07:41 PM
    Nicely put.
  • Balbir Singh Rawat
    By
    Balbir Singh Rawat
    01.06.13 06:17 PM
    Yes, Napoleon asked for A GOOD MOTHER and are we still searching for one? Majority of mothers have done a good job to give such persons to the society who care for it. It is a mini percentage whose off springs ( also strongly influenced by the examples of baddies of the society roaming around with impunity) create such problems. Mothers alone are not to be blamed.
    BSRawat
  • chaitanya
    By
    chaitanya
    01.06.13 08:03 AM
    I agree, men who come from families practicing their lessons in mutual respect grow up to be more sensible. However, after a certain age, your peer group has a lot more influence on you. That's when the conditioning from the early years pays off. When you are in the company of peers who are disciplined and decent, you turn out decent too. Again, that is the problem in a lot of cities in India- the peers are so out of control that a decent man is treated like a Wuss.
    It looks like a catch-22, but as the social pressure increases, both men and women will have a significant role in disciplining the rotten ones.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    31.05.13 07:36 PM
    That's a nice one. Reading this post to perverts is similar to Jerry the mouse trying to bell Tom the Cat.
  • Anupama
    By
    Anupama
    31.05.13 06:05 PM
    I wish someone would read your post to the perverts who create trouble for women.
  • Rajpriya
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    Rajpriya
    31.05.13 01:32 PM
    Here comes another article on the bad Indian man and be cock sure there will be many more. I agree with Dr.B>S>Rawat’ observation: We need to look for effective solutions to a serious problem.

    Pointing out that it’s a woman’ or a mothers’ responsibility to raise civilized sons of India is certainly not - the solution. There are many nonsensical influences in the world today. A mother’s duty is to ensure a cared environment for healthy growing and nurtured upbringing of a child. A child learns much more from outside the home.

    No one thinks the Indian daughter needs to be civilized too? I mean Indian civilization not western.
  • OurJaipur.Com
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    OurJaipur.Com
    31.05.13 10:43 AM
    Nice Post. . .
  • Dr.B>S>Rawat
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    Dr.B>S>Rawat
    31.05.13 07:15 AM
    Any one over there who could teach good mothering to those Indian mothers whose sons are prone to rape mongering? It is so easy to describe what is wrong, and when it comes to remove the causes that lead to the wrongs, there is no body around. Why?
  • bemoneyaware
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    bemoneyaware
    31.05.13 06:18 AM
    Is life any safer for women ? Scary thought but as you said things are improving. And as Napoleon said Give me a good mother and i'll give u a better nation things have to start from the roots, the mother
  • BAJ
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    BAJ
    31.05.13 12:23 AM
    While there are some parts of your article I agree with, your main premise and opening line finds another way to blame women, who are already being blamed for 'being out alone,' 'wearing that thing,' etc.

    It is both men and women who are socializing boys, and naturally, boys will tend to mimic those of the male gender. A lot more to say, but will end it there.

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