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Why Indian Women Date White Men

Why Indian Women Date White Men

March 27, 2012

But do they have to hate indian men to do it?



It’s believed that the best way to learn more about a community is to enter a relationship with someone from that group. From doing a bit of couple-watching in London over the past year or so, it’s starting to look like the two groups keenest on getting started with this particular form of romantic anthropology are Indian women and white men. Even in a city with limitless mixed race pairings, this end of the Indo-English axis seems to be the one that keeps on growing. Now, it could be that there is no social trend at play here, that it is purely coincidence. But these couples seem to be appearing too regularly to dismiss them so easily. Could it be a result of unfavourable perceptions of Indian men combined with many middle-class Indian women’s goal of assimilation?

They say that Indian women are more progressive than Indian men, that where the men are scared to adjust, the women find it easier to move with the times. Talk to some Asian women and the generalisations come thick and fast - Indian men are chauvinistic, they don’t respect Indian women, they are all just… the same (this last one might be the most damning). Soho Theatre even staged a play titled The Trouble With Asian Men. Is it true? Does the average Indian man’s attitude to women need urgent modernisation? Is it in need of more of an overhaul than other men?

With long lists of criteria from families and the wider community (even if you live in an area with no other Asians) to meet, dating outside the race must look like a way for many Indian women to make a decision that is theirs and theirs alone, a way to resist the status quo of Asian female typicality. It’s also a way to mark yourself out as more open minded than all those other, staid, close-minded Indians. Thanks to western mainstream media, white men are a fast-track ticket to fitting in, to seeming more like everyone else - they are individuals, forward-thinking, stigma-free, a passport up the social hierarchy (they also do all the cooking and don’t demand perfectly round rotis round the clock if an old Bombay Times article is anything to go by). Indian men meanwhile have to settle for being backward-thinking dictators or socially inept, sexually repressed pervs.

An Indian female friend who moves in virtually all white circles told me she likes to date white guys as she enjoys seeing her own culture through their eyes; that their interest in Indian culture in turn makes her more excited about it. Why exactly she needs their inspiration (or validation) to ignite that interest, I’m not sure, but it’s likely a common feeling. A recent status update on the wall of a Facebook friend, after starting a relationship with a white guy, read that she has finally ‘had enough of brown boys’, followed by a strangely humourless series of comments explaining her reasons why. You wonder whether this extends to the men in her family – are they equally worthy of derision? There is nothing wrong with ‘going Gora’. Scorning Indian men beyond lighthearted digs however seems a bit more worrying.

Photo credit: erasenothing.blogpsot.co.uk 

75 Comments

  • Andy
    By
    Andy
    17.07.16 03:44 AM
    Well I am a white guy from England and I just want to add this. I met an Indian south african girl online and I found her absolutely gorgeous. I think I almost fell in love with her as soon as I saw her.
    But I reckon I would be worried about being seen with her in a place with a lot of Indian guys, I think I will end up getting my head kicked in over it in the end.
    But I also gotta comment on some of the stereotypes I am seeing on here about white men. I need to tell you that some of us are absolutely horrible, nasty violent scum. Not me for sure, but how could you even believe we are all so nice? Its so rediculous.
  • anon
    By
    anon
    22.09.15 03:45 PM
    My advice to White men who seek Indian women is to go to South Africa. The Indians in South Africa have lived there for almost 200 years. Indian South Africans were brought to South Africa by the British in the early to mid 1800's to work in the sugar cane plantations and railways and South Africa has the second largest Indian population in the western world outside India. Unfortunately many people do not travel there hence only assume that only African or White people live there. Now, for Indian women seeking White men my advice would be to try western Europe. I found the men in Western Europe to be much more open minded than White Australian men who only seem to like the Oriental women (Chinese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese women etc). I found many White Australian men even travel to Oriental countries to marry women there, Indian women do not seem to be considered. Many Australians from personal experience do not travel much and have limited knowledge of the world and most Indians migrating to Australia are first or second generation, the most or recent immigrants who hold onto their old ways of only socialising with other Indians and having arranged marriages. Many Australians hence assume that all Indians have arranged marriages which is not true. As a South African Indian, Indian South Africans only look similar to Indians from India but are very different culturally as they are westernised. Indian women in South Africa can date/marry men from any race. Infant I have a preference for White men over Indian men but do not find African men attractive hence would not date them. As for the White South African who commented on Indian women going to clubs in South Africa, well why wouldn't they. I am not sure what White South African men are expecting since Indians have lived in South Africa for almost 200 years and those of Hindu and Christian background are westernised and open minded. Also many White South Africans chose to segregate from other races in South Africa during Apartheid, interracial mixing was not allowed by the White rule but now after 21 years of democracy people there are mixing, not much but it does happen. In fact I think that more White men should date/marry Indian women. The only races I found who have issues with this are Indian men, White women (I noticed this in Australia were White women are accepting of White male/Oriental female relationships but not of Indian women, when in actual fact many White women in Australia are single due to white men marrying oriental women, lol) and Oriental women who also get jealous when White men like Indian women since they are seen as competition in my opinion. In fact Oriental women to prefer white men more than their own. The issue I found is that many Australians assume that all Indians are the same and the thought of mentioning to Australians that Indian South African women like White men is a shock to them. For some reason they assume that Indian women only want to be with Indian men unfortunately the Indians from India give this kind of vibe to other races when in actual fact South African Indian can date men from any race. The other issue I found is that in Australia many White women dislike Indian men but go more for the Sri Lankan men as they do not seem to think highly of Indian men. Hence what I noticed is that many Indian men get jealous and dislike the idea of Indian women dating white men as white women do not give them any attention. Well as an Indian South African women I can date any race and I find Indian men from India to be very annoying and whom I would not even date unless it was an Indian from South Africa with similar values. Hence my advice to Indian men from India is that Indian South African women can date/marry White men and do not have arranged marriages and hence do not appreciate the annoyance. Also in South Africa I noticed due to democracy there is a trend of White men marrying South African Indian women which I think is great. During Apartheid everyone had to be amongst their own race hence many dark skinned Indian women were not seen as attractive and many never had relationships and are now in their 40's, 50's, etc, therefore even in South Africa if an Indian man dates/marries an Indian women the woman is usually fair skinned and the guy is dark. I am actually glad that White South African men are marrying Indian women especially, otherwise many would end up alone, sadly that is the case in the South African Indian community even though South African Indians do not practise the caste system or arranged marriages. Although I wonder what White South African women think of White men in South Africa marrying Indian/Black women because I meet many racist White South African women in Australia who always mention that to me that dating/marrying out of one's race/culture is wrong which I think is a very backward mentality? I am not sure if this has to do with South Africans also being weirdly religious which I had seen amongst many Eastern Europeans as well? I think people should date/marry whom they want to, it is their choice after all.
  • anonymous
    By
    anonymous
    25.06.15 09:05 PM
    I found the forum by chance and have to say that if Indian women are seeking white men that they should avoid Australia. Whilst Australia is one of the best countries to live in, I found most white Australian men not open minded at all when it comes to interracial mixing with Indian women. I have seen a rare few white Australia men with SriLankan women but most white Australian men seem to prefer the Oriental Asian women. I also found that most Australians in general seem to have a limited knowledge of the world hence could be that most assume that all Indians are from India (not true) and that all Indians have arranged marriages (not true), which may be the case for Indians from India but this is not the case with Indians from Western societies. As an Indian women from a western country who can date and marry men from any race, my advice to other single Indian women is to avoid seeking white men in Australia or they will end up being alone. As a personal preference I prefer white men before Indian men since I found that Indian men come with a lot of drama and usually would only date fair skinned Indian women over dark skinned Indian women as dark skin Indian women are considered unattractive to Indian men and I also found that in western countries Indian men would date and marry white or mixed race women but get jealous or dislike Indian women being in relationships with men white. The only people I met who seem to have a problem with white men dating Indian women are Indian men, white women and Oriental Asian women. Also I found white women to be some of the most racist and rude women I met who have a lot of jealousy issues and low self esteem who usually tend to vent their frustration on Indian women. The common thing I heard from white women about Indian women is that Indian women are submissive. Coming from a western country, I do not know of any Indian women who is submissive at all. It is good to know that white South African men are dating Indian women in South Africa, a country that has Indians living there for >150 years considering South Africa's history of racism and where interracial mixing was banned by the white people who ruled there. Basically if Indian women want to date/marry white men then it is their choice and Indian men should not have a problem with it at all since I sometimes see Indian men with white women or other races.
  • Latha
    By
    Latha
    16.12.14 03:48 PM
    I prefer white men to Indian men because white men know how to treat a woman right. There's equality in the relationship and they're usually much more attractive than the average Indian man. Hardly surprising why more and more Indian women are dating outside their race these days.
  • dumbarese
    By
    dumbarese
    12.10.14 12:28 AM
    LMFAO, what a hunk of bull, statistically Indian men marry more than Indian women you sell out trash go look it up, plus I see more Pakistani men pimping white bitchez out and more white men joining the EDL to get their heads smashed
  • LS
    By
    LS
    24.09.14 08:53 AM
    I love women of all races, shapes, and sizes. However, IF this were a story book life and everything was to my choosing, I would find, marry, protect, and provide for a Desi wife.

    I am a Caucasian, in shape, fifty year old man. I am married to a woman I love; we have children, and a good life. However, my dream from the earliest memory was to marry an exotic looking woman from India, Pakistan, Philippines, or some other place in Asia.

    Life rarely takes the path you want it to, but usually is the life you need.

    Gentlemen, please treat the women in your life with respect, love, and patience.
  • mona
    By
    mona
    21.11.13 11:44 PM
    Marriage is a extention of family. My daughter is 21 and if she will marry white guy she will be dead end to the family. we are indian (gujarati) and she is suppose to extend the family by marrying guju guy.
  • 14.08.13 11:56 PM
    I THINK THAT INDIAN WOMEN DONT HAEV ANY OPTION BUT TO LIKE WHITE GUYS AS THEY ARE EXTREMELY HANDSOME HAVE EXTRA EDGE OVER ANY OTHER MEN FROM OHTER PARTS OF WORLD. INDIAN MEN ARE NOT THAT GOOD LOOKING OR COMPLETE PACKAGE AS COMPARED TO WHITE MEN. INFACT WOMEN ALL AROUND THE WORLD LIKE WHITE MEN, THEY ARE WELL BUIL;T THEY ARE FIAR IN COMPLEXTION THEY ARE SMART WELL EDUCATED MATURED FLEXIBLE . THEIR FACE CUTS ARE AWSOME . AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THEY HAVE BIG STRONG COCKS WHICH INDIANS DONT HAVE. I CAN SAY IT VERY COJNFIDENTLY THAT A IONDIAN GIRL ALWAYS DREAMS OR WUD CHOOSE THE WHITE MAN TO BE WITH FI SHE GETS THE CONGINIAL EWNVIORNMENT TO BE WITH THE GUY. ITS A DREAM COME TRUE OF AN INDIAN GIRL TO SPEND THE LIFE WITH WHITE GUY.THEY ARE THE BEST.
    AMIT
  • swetha
    By
    swetha
    01.07.13 12:35 AM
    @Gerry ... i think bharath Matrimony will not work for dating purpose. that website's prime purpose is marriage.
    I think its not challenging to get a partner because if u really want something you will find a way.
    But since it involves human emotions some times it may back fire, but it should be OK... coz life is full of good times, bad times and boring times ...

    I wish you all the best in your pursuit and i would suggest..which ever race's lady u like ... live in love with that lady , its the way one has to live life...because physical attraction will fade away ... and i wish and dream for such relation...
    (i really don't know how old you are, but give it a thought. All the happiest people in the world live same kind of life )

    And thanks @Rajpriya your post were cool in this article...
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    29.06.13 09:41 PM
    @Gerry,

    Try moving to NJ. Looks like luck is smiling at you. Your dream may come true.
  • Gerry
    By
    Gerry
    29.06.13 08:37 PM
    Thanks Swetha for clarifying the fact that not all Indian women are what someone's opinion of them are. I am currently seeking an Indian girlfriend, and although it is challenging (being a white male who lives in the USA), I am hoping it could happen. The thought of having a sexual-relationship with an Indian woman excites me greatly and I am sure I would be satisfied once this occurs. I understand that a true relationship is not just based on sex, and I would have to accept the customs and practices of a true Indian woman as well. I will certainly keep up my search!
  • swetha
    By
    swetha
    27.06.13 01:09 AM
    Hi... Yet again its funny to see getting fixated on their assumptions about people/race. i saw comments about physical features, FOBs, ugly faces ; such faces exist in every race.
    **Educated but immature!! well sir you never spoke to right ladies.i am sure you have met very few Indian ladies.
    **Real and sensible people take men/women of any race would not be judgmental. And there are many Indian women too out there who are like that. Immaturity clearly shows lack of wisdom. Hence you can not generalize it on the entire Indian girls who are in US with good education.
    And please about hygiene. Who likes to be dirty anyways?? Stop saying it on entire Indian girls. Its just disgusting.

    I am Swetha, 25yrs old Indian women, living in NJ. I am here to study, find a job and settle down.
    I am attracted to white guys here in US. I know men in my own family and I thoroughly know how Indian men are in general. I am attracted to white men because I find them nice an relaxed. They respect their lady and they give her space. And I find them very sexy which is totally my individual perception.
    I dream of my dream american man becoming real in future who is kind and sensitive. How cares for his lady love and also his and her family.

    Please people of different races stop giving a generalized views on any race. You hardly know anyone with few meetings or conversations.
  • SM
    By
    SM
    20.04.13 12:31 PM
    'Proud to be an Indian Woman'

    I am a truly liberated male, not defensive about my small penis.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    02.04.13 03:02 PM
    @Gerry,
    Try: http://www.bharatmatrimony.com/

    There are many Indian women dreaming of living in the USA. If you happen to be the Prince Charming you will find many.

    Wish you all the Best of luck pal.
  • Gerry
    By
    Gerry
    02.04.13 10:17 AM
    I am a white male who lives in the USA (NJ) and am presently seeking an Indian lady for a possible relationship. It seems that most of the Indian females here are married though. I am wondering about how to improve my chances of finding an Indian woman and what dating-sites would be best (since I am sure many of them avoid using craigslist). Thanks for this forum!
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    21.03.13 02:55 PM
    @Gerry,

    You are absolutely right. India has enough of porn and is not second to any where else in the world.

    While agreeing with: Traditional Indian women are on their way out, I only hope the Indian men do not become slaves of the updated smart Indian women.

    If the updated smart Indian woman cannot find an equally updated smart Indian man then there is this danger that these women look for smart men outside India.

    This trend is a warning to all Indian men: Get Smarter and stop treating Indian women as your slaves.
  • Gerry
    By
    Gerry
    21.03.13 04:09 AM
    Not all 'Indian-women' think, look or act alike! There is even such a thing (believe it or not) as Indian-woman porn actresses! Traditional Indian-women are becoming obsolete; and the updated Indian-women (the smart ones) are not going to be slaves to Indian-men anymore... I am glad!
  • Atheist Indian
    By
    Atheist Indian
    31.10.12 02:08 PM
    @ Kaz
    Kaz has a good point. The majority of Indians are not in the top of the attractiveness totem pole. Just a handful of beauty queens in a country that has over 18% of the world's population doesn't make Indians more good looking than others. The majority of good looking Indian people are from cultures that had a good admixture with foreign genes. In contrast, Indian cultures with prohibitively endogamic reproductive patterns have a disproportionately large number of ugly people.
  • Atheist Indian
    By
    Atheist Indian
    31.10.12 02:02 PM
    @ Kaz
    Good points. As a non-desi guy who tried dating desi Indian women, some of these issues you mentioned have turned me very wary of dating Indian women. Lack of hygiene is a big one, it is an out-and-out dealbreaker, no matter how conventional pretty she looks. I'll add some more, that make Indian women less than stellar in the dating market (not in order of preference):
     
    Physical
    1) Butt ugly and lack of slender and womanly legs, thanks to a culturally ingrained aversion to physical effort.
    2) A high tendency to gain weight in the abdomen area, again thanks to a cultural aversion to having too many work-saving doodads and servants do all the work. This is true only for the middle class and upper class women, not the very poor ones (who are way too skinny).
    3) Face ugly. This will probably invite brickbats, but only about 5 out of 100 brown Indian women have pretty, feminine faces. Most of them seem to be concentrated among a handful of ethnic groups - Kashmiris, Bengalis, etc. The rest have faces that look more like Mallika Sherawat or uglier, sometimes almost like a transgender person.
     
    I confess, the above reasons are shallow. But again, I am a human - shallowness to physical appearance in ingrained in our psyche. I am very attuned to women's own shallowless, so women here who might want to call off my shallowness, I'd say "what is good for the gander is good for the goose as well".
     
     
    Personality:
    1) Clingy and overtly commitment-phile. They want 'guarantees' of a lifetime commitment way too soon. Some of them start naming 'future' babies and talking about family within the first few months of sleeping together. Scary.
    2) Material girl. Of course, for some men, it is not much of an issue. But personally, I found a lot of Indian women I was interested in, a little too crass. They are really obsessed with giving the illusion of status and having a 'rich' lifestyle. White women my age don't have as many hang ups, at least European white women, who are a lot more casual, easygoing, artistic and intelligent (as opposed to having just a plethora of flashy degrees).
    3) Immature. No matter how educated an Indian woman is, I find most desi women around my age (mid-20s) to be too lacking in depth and unworldly for my tastes. They often use degrees as their only crutch for claiming that they are intelligent, but anyone familiar with education in India knows how easy it is to get an arm's length of degrees in India. They have no appreciation for good art, good music and the ability to opine, discuss things like an adult. Dealing with an Indian woman in her 20s is like dealing with a precocious, overgrown and hyper-emotional child. Turn-off.
    4) Sexual hang-ups. Again, it would probably invite brick bats from some of the more prudish Indians. But desi women, like a lot of desi men, have way too many sexual hangups and a difficultly letting go. Some of them might be more willing, but being easier to bed doesn't equate adventurousness or sensuousness - to of the qualities that make a woman more attractive to my eyes. Most Indian men might not find this an issue however, but awkardness in bed is an instant turn-off for me.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    20.08.12 03:53 PM
    @Kaz,

    Your assumption makes me bit too worried. Do you think all the beautiful girls and handsome men of India are the products of a budded process?

    Aw Me Gawd!
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    20.08.12 03:41 PM
    @Craig,

    I know most men are not idiotic & don't go for such surgeries but there are women who expect men to have XXXL sizes to fit XXXL's and that gets some men to walk in to idiocy.

    As long as it's not 365 days you could have a few days in between to relax can't you? Take care Boy.

    How's your love life?
  • Kaz
    By
    Kaz
    20.08.12 03:36 PM
    I dont know about why Indian women go for White men, but I am an Indian guy and my wife is white. And I have avoided dating Indian women. Reason : (1) The Indians in the US fall broadly in to the FOB types or the 7-11 types. Fobs I cant handle, too different culturally. 7-11 type gujjus and punjabis, are just plain annoying. Daddy owning a gas station is the culmination and apex of prestige for them. (2) I just find Indian women to be less hygienically inclined than white women. Especially down there, and in general house keeping. (3) I dont want to deal with annoying family that keeps getting in my face. (4) I am more attracted to the white female, and I feel our kids with mixed racial features will be beautiful.
  • Craig
    By
    Craig
    20.08.12 02:46 PM
    @ Rajpriya

    I don't know about getting surgery to enhance my man bits.. I'm quite happy about the size it is now :-) .. but yeah I would find it a bit difficult to keep it erect 24/7, haha.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    16.08.12 11:14 PM
    Why are Lingams that big? Are they used to plug in large holes? Small lingams don't fit in large holes? Is that why they make large? Really puzzles me.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    16.08.12 05:32 PM
    I know the proud to be Indian women who know their way around the sizes of dicks. You sure beat them all.

    Just bother about your guy. Yes I go screwing around. Shouldn't hurt you does it?
  • Proud to be an Indian Woman
    By
    Proud to be an Indian Woman
    16.08.12 05:21 PM
    this is why I hate Indian men- defensive and even though there was a whole bit written about other stuff the only thing that stuck in your face was the word "dick". Whatevs dude, I dont want your stash of penis pictures surely you have built up a collection for some reason somehow. When you ask inane questions like why Indian women go for Indian men, expect inane answers, over and out.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    16.08.12 05:09 PM
    OH! Why not? I was just wondering how a well mannered, cultured traditional Indian woman can spit so much of filth through her mouth. Just curiosity? I had a different picture of those women.

    I know hundreds of jokes about women who look out for the mythical big Dicks. If you care to post your email address I could send them so that you get really tickled where it matters most.

    NRI is not the place for vulgar stuff. It would give the true well mannered, cultured traditional Indian woman a dirt cheap look. You sure seem to be damned proud of portraying that picture.

    Are you sure your man only screws your ego? if he does he is no man.
  • Proud to be an Indian Woman
    By
    Proud to be an Indian Woman
    16.08.12 04:37 PM
    @Rajpriya Whoa, so defensive! Atleast the Chinese men make jokes about it. I bet in real life you'd get your 200 cousins to out me out. Sorry for all the vitriol. The recent news about a 15 year old being molested, beaten up by 30 men in Assam has shocked me, to give me nightmares for days. I still wonder how Indian men still profoundly anticipate why so few of them get 'foreign girls' . Try to imagine what it's like to be an Indian girl in a city like Delhi taking the public transport, doing her job within social and family 'restrictions'. I am so happy that she portrays the fierce side of her to the world- whether it's literary or even small rural groups like the Pink Sarees. If they make the 'lingams' according to size, maybe it will stop the Indian male ego to inflate
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    16.08.12 11:02 AM
    @ Craig,

    I missed adding the most vital point, how else would the proud one know mine is small. I can not remember opening my fly for the proud to be Indy woman. Could it be the astrologer who studied my Lagna predicted?

    I am clueless. My curiosity is killing me man.

    Hey! Craig make sure you undergo some enhancing surgery to your vital spot before you present your xxxx to the well-mannered, cultured traditional Indy doll and stay very erect even if you are not correct boy.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    16.08.12 09:08 AM
    @Craig'

    Have you ever wondered how a well-mannered, cultured traditional Indian woman brought up under a misogynistic/ patriarchal system could exercise misandry?

    Because their papas paraded their future SILs with their fly’s open so that their daughters could pick the one with longest prick. LOL

    This is similar to any identification parade of criminals by the FBI and the like.

    Do you get the larger picture that could make the Indian woman proud?
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    15.08.12 07:37 AM
    OH! My li’le un vakes up ta eny okasion & stans veri tall ta pinitret deep'ndark bushes’ thro uota enny icy hart & britens da cheek un’il they reel go red. You tell me! Es war immer pussitive.

    U shuur arrr wel mannered kno eksaktly ow ur Indiaan dark man’ mythical loong dil’o lolly needs a l’ile likin’ don’t U. It’s sad the prity un papsy and mama chose wanna stay foewer cos he don’t ‘ave en itchy dong & luks lyk dokta shivago.

    H’d an indy origin from far off wenesuela (en her paps was maharaaj) did well follvin me like da shado to marvelaarch but her ole man had his own idea & she wus verrrry sad.
    I kno Meny Indy dolls ovar da seas makin’ hay wile da sun is so rare dat scares dem they wud neva make it to giva awey deren wirginty. Soo sooory u r stil in da dark age and done kno darar fair skeened indiaans too you rifuce ta see.

    U proove ta be ye neggertive indy off'erhed. Try ta get abroad open ye ocean for many a ship.
  • Craig
    By
    Craig
    15.08.12 01:30 AM
    Negative speech isn't welcome here witch, get a life.
  • Proud to be an Indian Woman
    By
    Proud to be an Indian Woman
    15.08.12 12:45 AM
    Aw, did you little penis get its ego smashed? boo hoo.
    Thanks to the misogynistic/ patriarchal system- I think it has sort of helped women in a positive way. She looks good and takes care of herself - Indian men don't usually have to worry about it since they'll get a pretty looking girl by mummy daddy.
    She is well mannered, cultured because of this huge repressive idea that a woman has to bear tradition within her. Indian men can scratch their balls in public and get away with it. Don't have to worry about being fat and ugly because he will get a "fair, good looking" girl by mummy daddy.
    The good thing is, with globalization, travel and intermingling of communities and race- people are beginning to see how their "tradition" has brought them us as sore losers in the end. I am very happy Indian women fare so well abroad. She totally deserves it! Hope this will make people question these "values" that have over generations treated her like second class citizen.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    13.08.12 07:39 PM
    @Craig

    I don't know how we were able to connect up with all those lovely girls in those days without this online stuff. I had a lovely girl friend: Helen of (not Troy) but Kingston Jamaica in London. I don't know how I missed marrying her.

    Much later I met up with her, her husband and kids in Florida. I found she had a great guy for her husband that made me really happy.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    13.08.12 07:25 PM
    @Craig

    There is no Hollywood stigma of white guys as cheaters but there are enough Bollywood Type Indians cheating.

    Bollywood provides all necessary education for eve teasing to cheating as much I have heard of. Before I get stones thrown at me I would advice you go to the link below and read it for yourself. Most Indian men young and old draw inspiration with great passion and devotedly follow their Bollywood heroes and not only do they admire they ape them too I was told.

    My love life has always been like a dream. I wish you were with me during my younger days.

    http://www.preservearticles.com/2012011821121/short-essay-on-obscenity-and-violence-in-films.html
  • Craig
    By
    Craig
    13.08.12 06:57 PM
    Yah I've been thinking of giving India a visit one of these days.... maybe if I speak to one of the ladies in Afrikaans, that might lift that "Hollywood stigma" off me, haha.
  • Just another blogtrotter
    By
    Just another blogtrotter
    13.08.12 06:43 PM
    Hey Criag,
    I don't reckon dating/matrimonial sites will take you anywhere. Basically, a white guy registering for marrying only an Indian girl on an Indian website is unheard of. Try coming to India or find someone in the NRI community... Though, I would say, there is nothing like 'Indian girls are ideal'; There are plenty of rotten tomatoes amongst us too! And of course, The Hollywood's image of White guys as cheaters wont help you!

    Bonne chance! ;)
  • Craig
    By
    Craig
    13.08.12 06:35 PM
    Thanks for the encouragement Rajpriya, it's much appreciated :-) .. Yah like my mom always tells me, 'there's a lid to every pot'. So hopefully I'll find my princess one day .. I trust your love life is good??
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    13.08.12 06:13 PM
    @Craig,

    I understand fully your desire. Finding the ideal woman leave alone an Indian woman is a thing that is not always easy. I know many traditional Indian women like to live with one man through their entire life. However, their choice would be an Indian man always even if he is not that great looking.

    In many ways it has to do much with their culture. As a white man to be accepted as a friend in any Indian family would be perfectly OK but as a son-in-law could be extreme tabo in the community even if an Indian were to fall in love with your personality.

    I won't say you would never find such an environment that would give you such an opportunity but could be very rare.

    An Indian woman living abroad would be more willing but then again it would depend largely on what type man she is looking for in her future husband.

    I personally wish you find your Indian woman and wish you all the best. I have a family long time friends in UK. The parents were trying to find an Indian groom for sometime years ago. With no results the girl herself found an Englishman whom she finally married. Their are really close to their families and I attended the wedding in London.

    It was so wonderful too see how they blended in so well and their families too. They have a lovely kid are now in San Fransisco. Those are nearly fairy tales.
  • Craig
    By
    Craig
    13.08.12 05:36 PM
    Not that I have a problem with girls who go out to night clubs to party the night away - and I don't judge them for that.... just that I'm past those days of going out to parties and I'm ready to settle down with someone.
  • Craig
    By
    Craig
    13.08.12 05:29 PM
    @Ketana

    I wish I could find an Indian lady who has a genuine interest in white guys like you.

    I've got an ad on a certain classifieds site under their dating section, and the title of my ad is "Decent white guy looking for decent Indian girl".. and then under that I've described what I'm looking for in a lady - I've had a few replies and every time I chat to these ladies, the next day or next few days there's no interest from them.... I don't know if maybe they're playing around or maybe they don't have a genuine interest in white guys, and not to boast or anything but I'm above average looking and I have a pretty awesome personality (well that's what all my friends and family tell me)... but I've noticed with our South African Indian ladies that they're a lot more westernized than the traditional Indian ladies, in the sense that a lot of them enjoy going out to night clubs and party the night away like a lot of our white ladies, so I don't know if that has anything to do with anything.

    Maybe it's better if I look for my future bride in India. I don't know.
  • ketana
    By
    ketana
    11.08.12 02:41 PM
    I guess what I'm trying to say is that there really doesn't need to be A particular reason as to why you like a certain type.. Sometimes it's just what it is!
  • ketana
    By
    ketana
    11.08.12 02:37 PM
    Well for me it's all down to personal preference and attraction. I'm an indian woman who is mainly attracted to white men. I've dated men of different races and still do but for some reason the attraction to white men is overpowering, even as a child going through adolescence I always found myself with a desire for white men. I do believe that as individuals we all have a particular type and preference such as height, weight, eye colour, short hair, race etc, its called being normal/human and there is nothing wrong with having a personal choice.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    08.08.12 01:05 PM
    @Craig,

    You can read your own comments over and over again and compare them to mine. Have I warned White guys to keep Silent? Or else I would kill them? Of course I don't have any thing against Indian women getting married to white men if they are attracted, find them ok and chose to.

    I have more than a dozen white male friends that are married to Indian girls and black girls and why would I talk ill of them. I cannot afford to marry all the Indian girls anyway.

    Let down by Indian and Muslim girls you say you went back to white girls and they let you down too.

    You say your ideal marriage partner would be an Indian Girl and at the same time quote your friend about bad luck he had with them and says they’re players and liars and cheats, and mainly the Hindu girls.

    Can you explain exactly how I irritate you and what your problem is my friend. I enjoy the company of all men and women of all races and none of them have let me down the way they have let you down.

    I never ask them if they want to marry me. That's the best way to turn them off. If they don't ask me then they don't want marry me. Isn't that hard to understand?

    Your problem is in finding a woman that wants to marry you. May be you try and change your approach. Best of Luck young man honestly.

    Don't keep irritating me with your bad luck.
  • Craig
    By
    Craig
    08.08.12 12:16 PM
    That's I mean when I say you have a warped perspective of white guys -

    "Healthy companionships are far more important than to think that every woman who smiles at you is ready to jump in to bed with you. I never get such ideas of taking every woman to bed that willingly talks to or smiles me at me. I am sorry to say that may the reason for your failures."

    You don't know me very well and I don't expect you to.. and sorry if I took your previous comments out of context, that's the problem with texting and online communication, is that you can never really tell what tone of voice or what the person really means in black and white.. but I don't only have sex on my mind - but it's a known fact that people think about sex every few seconds or minutes of the day.. and does that make people perverts? no, it makes us human.

    I've got no problem dating other women of color, but I do have my preferences - just because I won't be in a relationship with a black women doesn't make me a racist.. but let me meet a nice white, or Indian, or Asian girl, then I don't have a problem.

    And of course I want to meet a woman who's ultimate motive is marriage, I happen to fall into the class of people who want to get married, and is there anything wrong with that?? no. in fact it's the right way of doing things if 2 people want to experience their bodies in bed.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    08.08.12 08:50 AM
    @Craig,

    I will just ignore your provoking and immature claim that reminds you of" Achmed the dead terrorist “Silence! I kill you.” Because I am not 32.

    May be that would have happened to you or the muslim girl if you had married her against the wishes of her parents.

    I only kill mosquitos that try to suck my blood to make me sick.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    08.08.12 08:17 AM
    @Craig,

    I am really sorry to learn of your disappointments in finding the love of your life. Nevertheless, I can’t remember saying anything that expressed my jealousy towards white men. In fact there are quite a number of white men married to Indian girls in a circle of my very close friends. For your information they are great guys.

    Unlike you, I had no problems dating women of different races and skin color. However, my motives were never to end up getting married to all of them. There is something more than getting married to all the girls you meet.

    Healthy companionships are far more important than to think that every woman who smiles at you is ready to jump in to bed with you. I never get such ideas of taking every woman to bed that willingly talks to or smiles me at me. I am sorry to say that may the reason for your failures.

    I have had white girls that have gone to disco’s with me and danced but getting married was never my intention. Any kind of Love should take time in understanding the other person and his or her likes and dislikes for compatibility for any lifelong binding.

    I don’t intend getting into a debate on generalizations of players, liars, and cheats in any race or religion but only talk about your accusation of my being jealous of you. I still keep in touch with many of my teenage lady friends, their husbands and even some parents who are alive. They respect me as one that has been a good and decent friend their daughters’.

    Your problem is that you want to meet women only with the ultimate motive of marriage. There is no love in the Air for you. Keep trying and Nothing Beats a Try but Failure.
  • Craig
    By
    Craig
    07.08.12 11:46 PM
    @Rajpriya, you've got a very warped perspective of white men.. And you're actually very irritating, you remind me of Achmed the dead terrorist "Silence! I kill you." .. Listen bud, jealousy makes people nasty so don't be jealous because Indian women find us white men more attractive.

    I'm from South Africa, and we also have our fair share of beautiful Indian gals, Indian people have been here for just over 150 years - I had an Indian girlfriend when I was 16 (I'm now 32), and she was the same age as me, didn't last long coz her parents didn't approve.... So then I went back to dating white gals, then after being cheated on enough times by them, I met an Indian Muslim girl - we fell in love and talked about marriage after 8 months of being together, yet again, her parents also didn't approve, well, it was more her dad who broke us up because I wouldn't convert to Islam, and I didn't expect her to convert to Christianity, anyway.... My ideal life partner would be an Indian girl, although like white girls, not all of them are saints. A friend of mine says he's had nothing but bad luck with Indian girls, he says they're players and lyers and cheats, and mainly the Hindu girls.. So I hope I can find a decent one one day.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    27.07.12 09:06 AM
    @Divya,

    You certainly gave me a good argument on why Indian women date white men. Hi 5 to you for pointing out this disastrous aspect of marrying a Gora. Does it mean then, the white men are now in charge of the entire Indian family?

    That's a pretty easy way all Americans men would soon start being eloquently loud in Guajarati? I can imagine what it would be when it’s home away from home when the US of A’s national language becomes Gujarati.

    I think I should join you to take a long sip on your cocktail so that I get some sense on the advantages of the non Indian men with whose family I don’t have to share my frequent flyer miles.

    Yes you are right; the Indian men could be heavenly minus their oafishness. The problem is these guys were breast fed you know, that’s why they remain mama’s boys even long after their mom’s are six feet under. May her soul RIP.

    However, I am still sitting on a hot tin roof until I get all facts together. Thanks for sharing the Sambar you could get in to by letting a Gora tie the knot.

    Have heard this one? One cannibal says to the other: "I can't stand my mother-in-law.

    "?The other says: "Why don't you just eat the vegetables?"
  • Divya S
    By
    Divya S
    27.07.12 06:49 AM
    Reading all the emotionally fraught responses here (@Rajpriya-- Hi 5 for your eloquence) reminded me of my girls' night out with my closest friends.

    I mean, what night out is complete without a discussion on the foibles of men?

    The thing is, most of the girls in my circle are not anti-Indian men. Maybe its because we grew up in an Asian country and we've seen first hand the kind of racism that 'goras' are capable of.

    What we are anti- is the idea that we don't date or marry the Indian man, but his entire family. That's way too many people for one gal to handle.

    The perception among my "I don't date Indians" crowd of friends is that the non-Indians don't bring family baggage to the table which is apparently really attractive.

    Of course, at the end of that conversation, we girls decided men (gora or Indian) aren't worth it, and took another long sip from our respective cocktails.

    But me- I still find Indian men charming and 'my type'. Yes they are frustrating, and some of them (not all) are over-attached to their mothers, but these aren't insurmountable issues.

    In many ways, I don't think anyone who isn't Indian can truly understand or connect with me, my world view and my experiences.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    26.07.12 02:02 PM
    Here are some tips for Indian women on how to get an Indian man and try to keep him until death does do you apart.

    First learn all the tricks from white women. How do they get their men?

    What is it they have, that you don’t, apart from the color of the skin?

    Put on punk make up until you start looking kinky. Wear revealing clothes but do not disclose too much of your assets. Leave much for imagination.

    Socialize like crazy, give them looks to make them come down on their knees and if they can’t find a red rose keep one standby.

    Say you would love to join him for a drink. Go to the nearest pub but for God’s sake don’t get drunk. You still have a long way to, where you need to get.

    Let him take you home late night but kiss him good night at the door, promise to meet him the next day and repeat the above steps as long you can. This trick will make him want you and make him go crazy. Well that would show he really wants you.

    Tell him of all your needs except sex (surely that can wait) until he lends you his Master card. There you really have got deep down in to his heart when he really does give it you. Isn’t that an achievement?

    Now what you waiting for? I am sure you find enough shops around selling women’s clothes and cosmetics, and buy gold they always go up in price. Don’t fail to ask him in what kind of clothes he would like to see you in?

    In the west all women's clothes are kept on the ground floor so no sweating.

    But be careful to have at least some clothes on until your wardrobe can’t store no more. Now that he has made damned comfy he might pester you. Ah! You sure know what. Tell him that won’t materialize until he marries you.

    If he is hesitant it’s to time ditch him and the sea is full of many more? But he has already rewarded you for the entertainment you provided. Return the Master card and go fishing all over again and again. Good riddance of bad rubbish. It relaxes you so much. Don't fail report how the trick works.

    Nothing beats a try but a failure.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    19.07.12 10:42 AM
    Well! Well! How did I go wrong understanding the true intention?

    If one reads of the sham marriages taking place in the UK it should be clear to understand people becoming strange bedmates. Wanting that thing called Status (residential) desperately it is understandable. Being driven into circumstances in desperation by solace-seeking people is always an experience mixed with sex and emotion. Offering unexpected help is very rewarding.

    Your intention may have been honest but your revelation of the incident seems to have let you down. Normally an Indian woman would not consent to having sex before marriage.

    May be she thought you would help her improve her status by consenting to sex but it is strange to hear your family was against it. This post IS all about opposites attracting. Do you think she did have unlimited experience with white men?

    If I love a woman and would miss her the way you say you do I would stand against all odds (my family, her husband or whatever) to make her mine. Do I take it that you are married to some one you don’t love and only for status and your family wants it that way?

    Indians are no different are they?
  • Tom
    By
    Tom
    19.07.12 04:14 AM
    Hmm. I think you inferred what I did not intend to imply. I was involved with an Indian woman who was desperately unhappy in an arranged marriage, as I was unhappy in mine. She was married for status, as probably was I. Although I find Indian women attractive, she is the only one I have been with. I was not just looking for an any Indian woman--but my predilection probably helped get us together. I think it's almost the case of opposites attracting. One of the things I really appreciated about her was her traditional (despite our situation) non-western role in our relationship. We respected and liked each other. And for my part, I treated her better than her limited experience with Indian men, as I helped her with things she did not expect, as opposed to western women who expect everything.

    Unfortunately. the rest of the story is because of my family, her H-1 status with her husband and such, we could not stay together. I love her and miss her though.
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    18.07.12 10:44 AM
    When a blond and blue-eyed American is attracted to Indian WOMEN that means he is attracted to (m) any and not just one Indian WOMAN. Then he has the exact characteristics of a cheating Indian Man. Men are men regardless of the color of their skin.

    When someone says Indian WOMEN are attracted to him, how many of them does he sleep with? It was tradition for every Indian parent to look for a son in law with status for the well being of his daughter.

    I know every western parent wants his or daughter to marry a man with some kind of status. Status seeking is not a thing confined only to Indians. I hope Indian men are reading your point that dating an Indian woman was your best experience both sexually and emotionally. After all SEX – Is it the biggest and the ultimate deal in dating a woman?

    Good luck to all those Indian men who don’t stick to Indian women. You certainly would miss something.
  • Tom
    By
    Tom
    18.07.12 04:57 AM
    I think there's something more at play. I'm American, blond and blue eyed and have always been attracted to Indian Women, and I've sensed Indian women are attracted to me, regardless of therm seeking to improve their status. After finally dating one it was the best experience I've ever had with a woman, both sexually and emotionally.
  • alex
    By
    alex
    18.06.12 04:48 PM
    Well indian are caucasian actually, so there is nothing wrong with sharing the same feeling towards each other. Check this video out then you will understand what im saying

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBlZl8RON8
  • Angie
    By
    Angie
    06.06.12 11:32 AM
    It is very sad in the west women want a tan and in the east women want to be lighter why can women be happy with what god gave you in the east you have a taned sink as you live in a sunny part of the world. Come on women think about it if a man will only love you if your skin is lighter then is that the sort of man you want. I would much rather have a man that loves me for ME not my skin.
  • John
    By
    John
    06.06.12 09:19 AM
    My wife a white European.She says Indian men are far better than the white Europeans.
  • Gerry
    By
    Gerry
    17.05.12 10:56 AM
    Thanks for the good comment forum...This is also educational!
  • Gerry
    By
    Gerry
    17.05.12 10:51 AM
    Indian women could become "American-ized" after they live in Canada or the USA for a while...Provided they break-away from being oppressed and dominated from their traditions and overly-controlling husbands. The smart ladies should do just that--stop being oppressed!
  • Gaurav
    By
    Gaurav
    16.04.12 11:53 AM
    Soon enough indian men will reject dating indian women just because of this double standard indian women show towards us indian men.Me and my many friends have already stopped dating indian women since long time.We date all the races just not indian women,due to this factors decide here.Even if we meet a wonderful indian woman,we wouldnt date her.Its rule of our 100 indian men group,and number is increasing.Our group was started just with 3 and it has increased since 1 year.
  • Atheist Indian
    By
    Atheist Indian
    06.04.12 01:24 PM
    You comment about the mauritian cabbie was interesting as well and very true, to an extent. Men who go for exotic aren't necessarily accepting of the woman's race - they simply want variety.
  • Atheist Indian
    By
    Atheist Indian
    06.04.12 01:22 PM
    I think Eastern women have some kind of guilt when they date men outside their ethnicity. So when they fall for a foreign man, they try to assuage their guilt by attacking men of their own ethnicity - if all men in her ethnicity had some imagined or real shortcomings, then she can't really be at fault for choosing a man outside her ethnic group.

    Unless the culture goes more individualistic where the individual choices reign over the collective, women will continue playing the ethnic card when they practice exogamy. The men shouldn't take it too personal, unless you heavily identify with her put downs.
  • mks.13
    By
    mks.13
    06.04.12 12:20 AM
    From my own experience as an indian woman living in the states, white men are just more likely to ask me out. Even when someone seems interested, I've never actually had an Indian directly ask me out.
  • feluda
    By
    feluda
    28.03.12 02:40 PM
    thanks to everyone for reading and commentinng.

    @angela - my own personal view is that theres nothing wrong with anyone dating outside their race (who knows how much racial mixing has already gone on in india, no matter how much we might like to think otherwise). the old cliche that you fall in love with who you fall in love with is still true, though the less polite version might be, you are attracted to who you are attracted to - and the factors that go into that are usually really difficult to really specify or break down in any meaningful way.

    but from speaking to some indian women, not all of course, and its mainly the 'professional' class of indian women in london im talking about here, there is sometimes this mocking, or hostile even, view of indian men. some of this might just be because they feel indian men have rejected them, but also, i think its just what happens when you are so assimilated into the white western mainstream that you start to view whatever is outside of that with mistrust/hatred. ive met asian men and women like this, so its not just women. so i think these things do have an effect. love might not see colour, but it also often can do (in a positive or negative way).

    regardless of the title of the article, im not saying there is only one reason for indian women dating white men, or vice versa, indian men dating white women, which i have also seen more of in recent years, but i have noticed a pretty big increase when it comes to WM/IW pairings lately, so it probably can be seen as some sort of a trend!

    it reminds me of an old mauritian cab driver i met once who told me how his daughter has never understood the racism he has felt as she herself as never experienced it - he said that most of that is probably as most of the white men she meets probably want to sleep with her as she is so attractive, whereas when they seem him, they have quite the opposite reaction. now, that might sound crude, but its also strangely credible i would say...
  • Rajpriya
    By
    Rajpriya
    28.03.12 12:02 PM
    The huge difference in Indian women looking for men to marry is in where they were born, have their education and where they grow up. A woman born in rural India may get on well with being married to an Indian man who was born and grows up in a city in India or even abroad.

    But Indian women born, growing up and educated abroad might not get on with a man born and living in India. One can imagine what would happen if an Indian woman born and educated abroad tries to find a man in rural India and expects him to have what she finds in white men.

    There is some sense in a white man looking for Asian women because they need a marriage to last longer that may not be when marrying white women. UK’s divorce rates are highest in Europe. With eastern European and Asian women flooding the UK the British men certainly have a wider choice than a poor and hated Indian man.

    An Indian man would rarely be comfortable with white women who visit pubs on a regular basis and get close any man at any time. Indian men rarely tolerate their wives hugging other men. Unfortunately it will be so in Indian men for hundreds or more years to come.

    @Mojo, I agree with you about compatibility and coming across the right person at the right time regardless of race. Good habits are important factors too.
  • Mojo
    By
    Mojo
    27.03.12 06:54 PM
    I disagree with the author.
    I am of part indian descent and married to an american. It was mostly attraction and similar outlooks on life, interest, etc that makes a realtionship. I just didnt happen to meet an Indian guy with the same interests (I see lots of them out there now, but when I was looking they were hiding)
    there are a lot of indian men dating White women too and I guess the same could be said of them then? There are some fabulous indian guys out there and there are just as many regressive, close minded chauvinistic ones. Men just are..good and bad , race aside.
  • A Singh
    By
    A Singh
    27.03.12 04:29 PM
    If there are more Indian women dating white guys, than vice versa, I would suggest there could be two main reasons.

    1. Law of averages. I think there are far more white guys chasing Indian women, than there are white women going for Indian men. Many westerners hold the view that Indian women are the most beautiful in the world.

    2. When I was growing up in London Indian women were seen as unobtainable. Even if one wanted to date a white guy, a protective father / brothers would ensure such a union could not take place. Any prospective white suitor would not just need to deal with family disapproval but were in danger of being physically attacked. As the community has become more liberal and forward thinking (or less able to impose their will on the actions of an individual) it has become more acceptable for Indian women to date outside their race.
  • zam
    By
    zam
    27.03.12 02:10 PM
    its is soooooo simple as that once you eat lots of rice ,curry,kadhi,chicken biryani for years then some time you feel that u whant to have pizza,burger......!!!!???? but it doesn't mean "spicy" is bad its only mean and only mean you just want to have other one to taste it... ya but some time people just find a resone to blame its so spicy yyyyyy ...... so that they can justify themselves......
  • Jyoti
    By
    Jyoti
    27.03.12 10:56 AM
    A valid point made..

    You don't have to blame Indian men to justify your relationship with a white men. If you find a compatible person and happy in a relationship with him, just go for it. Don't say you are going for it just because you have enough of brown men.
  • shirish patwa
    By
    shirish patwa
    27.03.12 10:27 AM
    It is just another instance of raking up a controversy this platform is using.Sex has no color,sex is sex,it is as simple as that!Both men and women may venture in to the land of unknown to have fun.What all this ends up is another matter.It depends on suitability of individual cases.
  • Angela Carson
    By
    Angela Carson
    27.03.12 10:24 AM
    Are you happy for your Indian friends when they appear happy in a non-traditional relationship? You don't really show your support or share your personal view...

    For me, I look forward to the day when we are simply "men" and "women" and people are not labeled and segmented and deemed worthy or unworthy for anything (including dating/marriage) based on race. I was taught from a very early age that everyone is equal irrespective of colour, race, religion, sexual orientation, etc... which I know is not what most Indians are taught, especially when it comes to a suitable life partner. As an American living in India I'll admit that it has been a challenge for me to fully understand the objection to this idea here.
  • tys
    By
    tys
    27.03.12 09:52 AM
    i guess the reason could also be the same for the brown men dating or having relationships with white girls...it cud be just a case of interest,attraction and availability ...the rest, cud be, just justifications.

    i doubt if we enter into relationships with a purpose of assimilation or other such post event justifications..

    reasons normally is valid for someone who do not want to get into a relationship with someone...so the reasons for the said indian girl to say she do not want to date an indian man will be justified from her point of view...

    i dont think this is cultural or a racial thing...men , are to a large extent, generalized, marginalized and stereotyped ( perhaps with good reasons)..we seem to be needed to be humbled , perhaps some feel indian men needs its a little bit more.

    who knows?
  • mangesh
    By
    mangesh
    27.03.12 06:00 AM
    hmmmmmm its not true fully to a extent may be but that can be change or is changing now .the article is like its blamming every single desi guy on planet everything in world has exception
  • Shai
    By
    Shai
    27.03.12 04:49 AM
    So true. So so true.

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