There are so many preconceptions that I brought with me when I first moved to India. Either misconceptions garnered from Bollywood films, which it turns out, are not the best guide for sorting out what is normal everyday life and what’s not! I really thought that by now a handsome, single, sexy man with a long vest thingy and a bare chest would have looked my way from across a crowded bar and then he and his friends would have walked towards me, slowly, singing and performing a synchronized dance as his special way of woo’ing me. I mean, come on! After seven months of living in India – and the insane amount of socializing that I do – this should have happened to me by now, right? It happens every day in Bollywood films! Yet sadly, not in my real life!
I also arrived with many preconceived notions that I learned from the Internet. This, sadly, is turning out to be a much more accurate source for information than Bollywood films (I say sadly because I am still hoping to be woo’d “Bollywood style” very soon!! haha). Most of what I learned off the net and believed to be true before my arrival in India actually really is true. It’s lovely and different and for the most part I feel truly blessed to be experiencing it all.
However, there are certain things that I didn’t have a clue about when I moved to India that I could happily live without. Noise pollution from horn blowing tops my list. And just below that is the insane amount of married and committed men who approach women here in an attempt for a little diversion. In all my life, neither in the U.S. or Spain, I have never seen such a huge number of men try to set up extracurricular activities for themselves out in the open at bars, restaurants and clubs. They even try to set up liaisons via the Internet. Personally I receive an average of three online invitations per day, which is an insane figure.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t have any illusion that 100% of men and women in relationships are always faithful. And I know that this isn’t a situation that is unique to India. People cheat all around the world, every minute of every day. As for me personally, as far as I know, I have never been cheated on (exes: if that is not true, please don’t tell me now!!!!). I am also very proud to say that I have never cheated on anyone. Even when I was in a miserable marriage, I broke things off first and waited for him to move out instead of looking for happiness elsewhere.
Yet here it seems to me that cheating is an everyday thing for some guys. Given the ÜBER conservative Indian values and traditions, it amazes me how many seemingly unavailable men approach me or I’ve who I’ve seen approach a friend hoping to get lucky. If I had to guess, I would say that the ratio of single to unavailable men who have tried their luck with me is about 25% / 75%…with the 75% representing the guys who are married or have girlfriends. Since 99% of the guys are unattractive to me (sorry guys) and I have zero interest in wasting my time and just want to hang out with my friends they don’t make it much past hello (I have become very good at the “brush off” and have it down to 15 seconds now). Now, the guys who I actually did find attractive and who I chatted or flirted with a bit until learning they were married or had girlfriends were all pretty open about it.
Affluent men who are married or committed certainly do make interesting offers, I’ll give them that. To date I haven’t received a single ‘traditional’ date offer like dinner and a movie. The ideas they have logically include an exit plan from town and have ranged from a weekend in the Maldives to candlelit dinners, champagne in the moonlight or sightseeing trips to nearby towns for a night away. And of course some were simply 100% direct and just asked if they could come home with me.
So is cheating an accepted practice in India? Do Indian women just turn their back on what they know is going on with their man? So far only one of my married Indian friends has said that he and his wife have an “understanding”. He says that they married each other knowing each other fully so there were no illusions of fidelity to begin with! But my guess is that this is certainly not the norm and that the majority of Indian women wouldn’t be quite so relaxed about the topic. And I know for a fact that expats living in India don’t tend to turn their backs to it when dating Indian men. In fact, a good friend recently dumped her boyfriend after catching him red-handed at a party exchanging numbers with a girl and then trying to hide it. What a douche!
I asked around a bit on the topic and here’s what I heard:
- Cheating apparently happens more in middle-upper and upper class society than lower and middle class.
- I was told that lower and middle class men are so focused on working and supporting the family that there is hardly time or opportunity.
- That when every Rupee is counted to make ends meet for a family that there is typically nothing extra that could be used to seduce a lover. And since – generally speaking – women like to be wined and dined, so if there is no disposable income for the wining and the dining then chances are pretty slim that these guys are going to score. I know it still happens but probably not as frequently or lavishly as if they had cash to burn.
- The more affluent men typically have business trips and meetings day and night so there is more opportunity for them to hook up with someone. They can also offer a woman a romantic night out, a short getaway at 5 star hotels and they can pamper her…so it would indeed be much easier to start an affair with those resources — and the free time.
What I still don’t have a clear handle on though is WHY Indian men seem more active in this respect than men in other countries? I just moved from Spain where they are pretty damn naughty, but the Spanish men don’t even remotely compare to the Indians. One friend – I really hope jokingly – said it is the heat that makes Indian men such go-getters. Sounds like bullshit to me but it was a spin on the topic I hadn’t expected. Does the warm Indian climate really fire up naughty thoughts more than in other countries or cooler climates? Hmmmm….not sure I’m buying that idea.
For my part, I have somewhat mixed feelings about cheating in secret when the partner doesn’t know. The part of me that has never cheated is proud of that and believes that is the way things SHOULD be. But I haven’t been in a relationship in about seven years and I think I have changed a lot in that time and I’m not sure I see fidelity as such an important aspect to a relationship anymore – but again I haven’t been in love in so long that I could just be speaking jibberish.
Is it reasonable to expect to be faithful “till death do us part” now? With the high number of men who either DO cheat or are trying to cheat who I’ve come across I think the answer to that question is no. Not all of them. I’m sure that most women reading this probably think that their man would never cheat and that I’m talking about a different kind of man, with different values and morals. And I hope for them that it’s true. But it really can’t be true for every woman, can it? Those guys who I’ve met all have wives or fiancées or girlfriends, don’t they?
Given the naughty nature of some Indian men, based solely on what I’ve witnessed and know to be true from personal experience in India, it seems like these guys have very liberal views on fidelity. Views that they likely don’t express to their wives and girlfriends. Should society’s views on infidelity then soften to accommodate the reality of life as it really exists today in India? I already know that the general consensus answer to that question will be NO but the topic does make me curious. Obviously the flip side is to keep things as they are and keep everything hidden as it is now and brush the truth under the rug so to speak. I know enough about traditional values to know that this Plan B (or the way it has always been) is the preferred plan but … why? Why not be open and honest about this? I would love to hear your thoughts on this topic. I’m neither an Indian woman nor in a relationship….I’m just one of the many unlucky “prey” for these guys.
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Angela is a Californian who has lived in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, then off and on for 18 years in a small seaside village south of Barcelona, Spain. In April 2011, she moved to Bangalore with her daughter and 2 Spanish cats. Aside from writing for magazines, newspapers and various websites, Angela loves being social. By night Angela explores the Bangalore scene...and by day she's heads up the MarCom team for a leading Indian BPO company and works in the exciting world of cricket public relations as media spokesperson for the Karnataka Premiere League (KPL).

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on November 28, 2011
at 5:44 am
Infidelity is pretty common in India & in all stratus of the society.What I think is the main reason is the closed attitude of the society towards sex.It is considered almost a taboo to discuss,speak or even think about it.But we are all human beings after all & our basic natural incline is towards reproduction.If you make that a taboo then there are many consequence.Infidelity is just a part of it.N mind you Indian women are no less.There are way to many unhappy marriages,unsatisfied people,so infidelity is the next step.
on November 28, 2011
at 7:20 am
oh i did not know india was such a heaven….india here i come!!
on November 28, 2011
at 7:20 am
oh i did not know india was such a heaven….india here i come!!
on November 28, 2011
at 7:39 am
totally agree here!!! its happening in india, not only big cities ,everywhere !!! If you look at it many perspective there are many social aspect …..but I don’t agree its the “restricted” attitudes towards sex in our society is the reason behind it. If it is true then, those “restrictions” were there always.Look back time, generation go and ask grand fathers or somthing they will tell you at their time “this much” moral degradation was not there in our society….so what is the reason now??? ……..I can give you few…but won’t be right if I wright all those here……..
on November 28, 2011
at 9:25 am
I wish you were not treated as a ‘prey’.
In fact, I wish that men, especially Indian, were not the hunters but the hunted ones(or better haunted if they are married)…
Seriously, these blokes are setting up a very wrong ‘notion’, ‘example’.
The reason why you may be approached by so many idiots is that you may be in the circles of the rich and affluent ones…
on November 28, 2011
at 1:33 pm
Indian men don’t know how to date they are socially awkward with girls and women all their life there are very few that would actually be suave. They don’t take Rejection very well and have to please their parents and all that crap. People in India Get married too early and don’t grow up enough by travel or experiencing new thing to know actually what they want. when i moved from New york to Bombay the culture shock was eminent and guys would think i was in love with them or was coming on to them just because i was being nice and cordial. They need to grow up and cut the umbilical cord that wraps around their neck.
hope u meet the Suave exception:) i prefer the shy not mommas boys myself
all the best
on November 28, 2011
at 4:25 pm
Hi Angela
I think you are a preditor hidden in the pery’s uniform, from what I have read written by you. Ready to pounce on a good looking man.
I think this is a very complex situation on the topic you have written about, and there is no black and white or straight forward answers to this problem. The true answers to this only can be given by the cheaters and people who have been cheated on.
One thing I am going to say is this, our culture and society has written a sex manuel ( KARMA SUTRA ) on how to have perfect sex, because every body knows how to do it, but not every body is an expert at it. Why do you need a sex manuel if sex is not important to human being ? If this is true, then this is happning for long time.
I don’t think this is exclusive to India and Indian men. I am sure this must exist in the other parts of the world because LUST is a most primal urge in evrery human being. Most crimes are commited for this purpose only, and if you take this away from equation, then I don’t think we as a society need any law and order. I may be wrong on this but I know it makes sense.
I will give you may explanation on this as why an Indian man, but I am sure this applies to both sexes because for you to have an affair with you need a opposite partner. It takes two to tango if you see my point.
So here goes this pivital point once came in to my married life as well. I DIDN’T CHEAT. This only happens to individuals, who are in very low part in their marrieage and they are drowning in very law self estim and can’t seem to see way out of everydays grind, then this and variety of the other factors along with this will then drive you to cheat to perk your self up.
This is like a drug that you need every time to perk your self up and once you start , there is no stopping this individual until he/she is discovered in their tryst. The looks ugley or beautiful don’t comes in to this equation, when it comes to partners choice for this purpose.
Would I have cheated in my low times ? maybe YES . But would I now ? NO. Unless it’s Prinka chopra on plate and chance of this is nill.
HARRY
on November 28, 2011
at 5:05 pm
Wow, some great comments here, especially love the equal mix of men to women entering into the topic. From my limited experience so far in India I still think it has more to do with unhappy marriages like a few people have mentioned above (either marrying too early, arranged marriages with no chemistry, etc).
@Harry … seriously? Because I write about dancing bans, relationships, moustaches and diverse other topics then that makes me a predator? You are way off base with your judgement of my behaviour (or personality) but even so, the handsome ones hit on me too so there’s really no need for me to take on that role even if it was my style…
on November 28, 2011
at 5:06 pm
Wow, what an article!
Most of what Rhhila has said is quite true
on November 28, 2011
at 6:33 pm
Infidelity is common and increasingly becoming popular. One can’t really pinpoint at a particular reason for that: hardships of life, conservative culture and upbringing, arranged marriages and an upwardly changing lifestyle of the middle class. Till a few years ago, socializing was more or less a taboo. I feel, aspirations to be more modern and western also lead to such scenarios. Actually, the whole basis of the western culture is quite misunderstood in our country, unfortunately. And btw, women are no less. Anyway, till you find a sensible, sane and matured company, enjoy the socializing and good luck with the brushing off!! There still are some good guys out there.
on November 28, 2011
at 7:31 pm
Angela, is it not possible that you have only been to places where Men are look for extracurricular activities(Just saying) for instance PUB or a Discotheque etc, from my experience (which is a limited one) when i broke up, the only place i thought i could hit on a girl or ask for a girl out is in a PUB or a Discotheque and i was wrong.
My advise will be skip the PUB and Discotheque for some time visit places which are more quoit, no loud music where you can sit for hours and do nothing, just let your imagination run wild and then i would wait for you to write an article and the subject line will say “Why Indian Men are so Faithful?”
Ankit
on November 28, 2011
at 7:31 pm
Hi Angela,
I am an Indian guy.You have an interesting post up. Although, I feel that to call Indian men naughty would be going too far, I think it is rather a case of Indian men being socially inept to cover up their intentions. One night stands and guys hitting on girls just for the sex, and blah blah happens everywhere in the world, only the people are more suave and you could say better groomed and indirect and so “respectful”. So it is about Indian ,men being socially inept than naughtier as such.
Indians cheat more is an overstatement. I concede that well, many upper-middle class and upper class men might be cheaters but India is majorly made up of the lower middle class, family oriented men, who work their ass off for their families. I don’t think they have the time or the energy to go to 5 stars or other “romantic” dates. So to go on to say the Indian’s are cheaters isn’t very factual. The fact of the matter is most Indian men belong to the lower middle class and are very family oriented and would maybe I guess, be less prone to cheating.
I don’t know why no friend of your’s has mentioned it to you, but I’ll break it to you that in India, given the culture and the norms, a bar would be the least probable place to be picked up at by good men in India. I think you could meet better guys at other places. Even those who drink and are more “Western” in outlook and might have similar interests as you would go to other places than bars and clubs, where you should find them.
Well you were in the US,and well the president, Bill Clinton, the first person of the country, cheated!! Does that mean anything for other Americans ? I do not think so. Generalization is something we all humans are great at but it isn’t good.
Cheers.
on November 28, 2011
at 7:41 pm
Now come come Ms. Carson don’t give me that self pitty. You have been to more party’s then I’ve had hot curries. You know the score. You have seen the circus. I am not talking about any other articles. You wrote in this article ” I’m just one of the many unlucky “prey” for these guys. ” and if I am not wrong you said on top in bracket “( I have became very good at the ” brush off ” and have it down to 15 seconds now )”. and that’s not just for the ugley one’s.
What’s wrong with above statements, well the only way you would be a prey is, if you fell for these scums, and they have taken advantage of you. But you said that having few ex’s behind you and having all the experience, I am not buying a prey thing thus the statement.
I was being frank not rude.
on November 28, 2011
at 8:36 pm
If arranged marriages are to be blamed for high rate of cheating in India, Pray what do you attribute the high rate of cheating in the US? Non arranged marriages?
Could it be that men are men irrespective of citizenship?
Also, did you not get any attention in the US? What do you attribute the over 50% divorce rate in the US to?
on November 28, 2011
at 8:55 pm
Thanks for commenting
@Ankit, Chocolate – I just like hanging out with my friends when I go out to parties but you are right about those venues not being the place to find romance.
@Harry – I re-read my comment and can’t find the self pity, just setting the record straight. You accuse me of something quite ugly in a very open forum without knowing me or having met me. With respect to the use in the article, prey has nothing to do with being a victim…I used it as “a living creature being hunted for food or sport…”
on November 28, 2011
at 9:06 pm
@Maddie, good points. I was married to a Spaniard and we lived in Barcelona, Spain (I have lived outside the U.S. longer than in it as an adult and I haven’t set foot in the U.S. in a decade) so I don’t think I’m the best person to answer your questions but I am sure lots of readers here could
on November 28, 2011
at 9:45 pm
So true! Also I noticed that lots of grandpas hangout on bars/clubs in India (never seem that in other countries, only in India).
There is nothing more unattractive than a married/engaged man trying to hit on oh a girl..That’s disgusting and cheap.
on November 29, 2011
at 3:32 am
Interesting take there…I mean there are so many dimensions to cheating that the whole thing becomes an interesting study
…I sometimes feel that everyone cheats or atleast most people do…it is just that some get the opportunity and use it…while others wake up late and a few others wait for a better offer..:) just my two pennies…
on November 29, 2011
at 5:10 am
i think u are rgt in saying infeditilty is more in the upper class group than lower
Money does play a very significant rule… guys having more money do think they are bored in the relationship they’r in and try to find fun in other ways…
But even money is not the imp factor here… the imp factor is the commitment and not just from the guys side but also from the woman’s side…
There r times in a rekationship when bore sets in, its inevitable… u may say ur the greatest lovers on earth but we humans are built in such a way that we seek new things.,… and its ur partner’s responsibility to try doing something new if not all the time atleast sometimes ….
if both of them talk to each other and say these are the things i dont like then maybe there might be a answer to the problem, thats where indian lacks i feel.. there’s no effective communication…and due to that, men do what they do… go around finding pleasure where they can, rather than sit down and talk the problem out…
Woman also have this preconcived notion that… oh i do so much for him still he has so many problems… i feel couples should talk to each other and come to a solution rather than just give up and go cheat…
Thats what i feel…
Take care and keep writing………
on November 29, 2011
at 5:28 am
Why Indian? I think all men cheat and most women do too. I think mammals are polygamous not sure of many exceptions to this rule. But man has set some social standards to this. The advent of Christianity was very important to condone polygamous behavior, which was otherwise prevalent in much of Rome and Greece.
Now Indian men have all their decisions made for them by family or by parents, hence the tendency to rebel indiscreetly is high and cheating forms a big part of that equation. These are usually men with very low self esteem.
on November 29, 2011
at 6:46 am
Hi Angela! Thank you for a great piece.
I think you hit the nail on the head: it is precisely because Indian society is (or at least used to be!) so conservative and spiritual and sexually immature that cheating is definitely rampant. Being another lone foreign woman living in India, I can definitely identify with the ratio of single/unavailable men who are hitting on you, and the sheer numbers as well.
I am still working on getting the brush-off technique. 15 seconds is very impressive!
Great article again, and hope to cross paths one day!
on November 29, 2011
at 6:48 am
I also think that CHOCOLATE brought up some excellent points. I would also agree that most cheating happens in middle and upper class unions, and the vast majority of Indians don’t fall into this category.
You have inspired some fantastic comments on a very relevant issue. Thanks!
on November 29, 2011
at 10:19 am
Angela,
I really liked your article. It was honest. I will quote two successful Indian men I have met.
First, a businessman married to a doctor (who left her work to take care of the kids). He once told me, “I married her cause that is all I got.”
The second my Uncle, who was a successful pilot. He would often light up telling me the story of how he met his wife and say, “The day she(his wife) said ‘yes’, was the happiest day of my life!” A story I have heard countless times from him.
I think this is the reason Indian men who cheat, cheat. ‘They just marry for the wrong reasons.’
Men & women here marry to keep their parents happy, or because everyone else seems to be getting married, or I’ll be socially stigmatized, or now I have a good job and I need someone to take care of my home, or my biological clock is ticking so…
I think if you really love & respect someone, you would marry them for the right reasons. And if it was hard to continue with the relationship, you would be honest to tell them about it.
on November 29, 2011
at 11:20 am
Years ago, we Indians used to say these same things about foreigners! That’s right! All of em, no matter which part of the world you are from! Now it is really funny to hear someone else say this about us! Guess this is what “development” means! hehe!!!
on November 29, 2011
at 11:38 am
Angela, Indian men were open about centuries ago, if you look at the temple facade erotica was boldly sculpted, Kamasutra was penned down, somehow down the line when Europeans came to India, it was scorned upon and i believe indian society went into a shell. My views may be radically different, actually it is Indians who corrupted the west rather than other way around.
on November 29, 2011
at 12:43 pm
Angela, I guess a lot of ‘White’ women living in India would have similar tales to tell. Fascination with ‘fair’ skin and the tendency to consider foreigners ‘loose’ might explain why you get hit on as frequently as you do. Would be interesting to get the ‘hit ratio’ (single: committed men)and frequency of propositioning from single Indian women to compare. They may have a different story to tell. How Indian men compare with those of other countries would still remain open. I think we need a survey and maybe some qualitative research to really find out. I’d also be interested in knowing whether men of foreign origin in India get hit on by Indian women (my guess is they do more than their Indian counterparts) and the ‘hit ratio’ of Indian women hitting on them. Indian men may not have too much data to share on that one though!
on November 29, 2011
at 1:51 pm
wow! I haven’t lived in India for over 14 years now and can’t believe that the scene has changed so much in that time! But, then again, I was probably oblivious to it being young and self-obsessed myself.
Also, I must say, that it is probably a very small percentage of men that’s doing that. They just all happen to be at the same places looking for ‘prey’. The notion is that single girls at clubs and bars are easy and looking for trouble. India at large still has a lot to be desired in its judgement of outgoing, fun-loving, go-getter girls.
But, you seem to handling it just fine:) Just look elsewhere, like someone here suggested, if you want true romance.
on November 29, 2011
at 5:50 pm
I think its not just men in India, but its men in general who have a tendency to cheat. And these days women are no saints either.
Its a matter of personal values and integrity. And those who cant hold high on them, if given a chance would tend to get involved in infidelity. India has a conservative culture, but despite that the tendency to cheap has always been common. Maybe it wasnt as apparent and open as it is now.
Society at large has loosen its thought about it. Earlier it was not that acceptable, but now its easier to cheap, get divorced, find a new person and still be acceptable in your social circles. Just that much has changed. Instead of closed doors, things are coming out of doors.
on November 29, 2011
at 6:15 pm
@Nath – daaang, you have strong opinions on this. I don’t find it disgusting when they are complete charmers but – agreed – I still don’t think it’s right.
@Thousif – the “down times” are when it really would suck to be in a relationship with no chemistry at all because that means there is hardly anything holding it together and the cheating would be so much easier
@Vikram – yes, agree! Now go back and re-read
I do say it happens everywhere around the world, every second of every day
@Bronwyn – thanks so much for your kind words! I love that so many women have chimed in and that they aren’t all throwing spears at me xo
@Tabs and John Doe – loved your comments, perfection!!
@Umesh – I hadn’t thought about it that way and I really like the idea that you’ve thrown out … now please go research it and write an article for the site
Would be fantastic!
@Just Another Indian Man – you are RIGHT! A buddy of mine, he is from Canada and working her for…yeah, you guessed it, a software company…was with me at one of my favourite bars in Bangalore recently and an Indian girl sent him a beer! It was AMAZING! I was so proud of him!! There are a couple of good loooking Swedish guys I spend time with as well and they are eyed up and down when we are out. It’s the Tropical Fish syndrome
@Neelam – things probably have changed a lot indeed
I just go out for fun with my friends. My Mom has always said “when it’s supposed to happen, it will happen” so I don’t feel a mad rush to find Mr. Right like most people. It’ll happen when it’s supposed to
on November 29, 2011
at 7:05 pm
Very true about the white Fixation in India all the Whitening Ads should be a clue and they also think that if ur not Indian or an Indian origin living abroad all ur life u are of loose Morals I strongly disagree with both even though I come out on the good nd of the whole obsession with Fair and lovely I couldn’t be more against it. Beauty has nothing to do with COLOR
on November 30, 2011
at 3:55 am
Well! I stumbled upon this site by fluke. The generalization of cheating to Indian men is a far fetched assumption. There are enough women around in the world in any country to provide the kind of opportunity to for men to loose their willpower.
Not long ago did we read stories about John Terry, Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney falling for women who provided the ideal situations for cheating on their wives.
The most honest men at some stage of their life face the danger of getting tempted by a seductress.If there is a man who remained faithful then that was a lack of opportunity.
Rajpriya
on November 30, 2011
at 4:01 am
Interesting views. But I am not sure about the accuracy. Possibly foriegn women have a greater propensity to attract these kind of men. So you possibly have a greater probability of meeting such men, which makes you think there are a greater percentage of these men. Indian women are considered conservative and a man is likely to get into serious trouble if he makes these approaches to an unknown Indian women. Foriegn women on the other hand may be perceived to be more liberal and easy. Also the percentage of Indian men you find in these clubs is much less than those abroad. Hardly anyone in my social circle in India ever goes to clubs/parties (other than office ones). On the other hand, almost everyone in my social circle abroad go partying. In fact to date I myslef have never been to a club in India whereas I have been to clubs quite a few times when abroad.
on November 30, 2011
at 4:11 am
havent read the comments you received, so do not know if iam repeating someone elses thoughts…
i think we cheat becoz we can…we can and we can get away with it…our society and the culture which formed it has over the years has made woman into some sort of protector of indian morals and values, leaving the men to do what the fuck we want…very smart if you ask me.
moreover we have also , culturally alienated the wife once she is married to us…upon marraige the woman becomes completely dependent upon the hubby dear..shes off her parents heads..so she is socially alone…of course she get to instill our values to the children…so all in all theres nothing much most indian woman can do if her man cheats, except perhaps ignore it or pretend no knowledge of it…
our society does not support a single , divorced or seperated woman emotionally…we have made it difficult for them…
but , angela, i think the men hitting on could have been u more or less the case of a conquest scenario…its the western porn influence..its more of a bait…if it hooks great , if it doesnt, well, great try…yep, its that color issue …
but times are, ala bob dylan , a changing…women today can do it on their own….so cheating, by either partner , is now done at the risk of getting the boot…
when theres more to lose we tend to value things or situations…
i guess we put up with things what we can put up with….all in the name of a greater good..
so its all , in the end, perfectly okay…
truth is angela, if the situations were reversed, woman wud do it too…we are all just human….and we need sex, validation and all the rest that comes with it…we need to feel alive…
am i going off the subject again?
on November 30, 2011
at 4:29 am
@Raahila – you are too right…the night before my 1st day at work in India I was dying laughing in the hotel as I was using a self-tanner to try and darker up and look cooler like an Indian while I was watching TV…and advert after advet popped up (as I was still drying) for whitening creams. We all want what we can’t have I guess and the grasss IS always greener on the other side
@Tys – loved your comments. And the evolution of women through it (was worried about that as I started to read so thanks for capturing it). And yes, we all have conquest and to-do lists…whether mental (psychological!) or jotted down and “be with a white girl” probably factors onto some lists just like “see the great wall of China” or “sail down the Nile”
on November 30, 2011
at 6:21 am
Well to an extend you have almost covered all the fields about cheating on your partner. But here, I’d like to mention that cheating done not only happen when you are married, a committed relationship is equally important.
Agreed an arranged marriage is the best excuse to cheat, but who knows the same person would not have cheated on his/her partner before marriage.
A person cheats, thinking he can not get caught, it gives him a thrill that is missing on most of our lives once we are settled in out routines of house kids and wives/husbands. So when he/she meets a new person, or an ex-flame a feeling of freshness comes over and gives them the illusion of a better possibility.
Most of the times, it is never about love, cause love is much beyond the matter of heard, its commitment and a sense of responsibility, security and lots of other things.
An extra marital affair is more about fun and frolic. Its like an virtual escape, forgetting the worries and problems of your real life, dreaming of better possibilities, but the reality is it just adds to one’s miseries.
on November 30, 2011
at 8:56 am
usually when you get stats on this kind of thing, its the men who claim more partners than women, but if there’s that many indian men cheating, they cant all be cheating with the same woman, so indian women must be doing a fair amount of cheating too.
on November 30, 2011
at 10:00 am
Exactly as SJC says, there may be that many Indian women cheating, if this finding “Why Do So Many Indian Men Cheat?” is correct.
Whether it be abroad or in India it takes two to Tango.
Is it absolutely necessary to go clubs to cheat on your wife? Women of loose character are not solely a foreign thing. May be women abroad are not shy about admitting they have or had an affair with a married man.
How many clubs in India cater to a man and woman mixture?
I live abroad since the 70’s. Never went to a club to find women.
Rajpriya
on November 30, 2011
at 12:13 pm
What the fool & just another Indian man have said is what i have been thinking all along.This fascination for white skinned foreign girls,& the popular notion about them being liberal is responsible for the indecent proposals you receive.Therefore you can’t base any generalizations on that.For ex i have lived in this country for donkey’s years but am yet to receive such a proposal.
on December 1, 2011
at 5:42 am
Very interesting post..and I tend to agree with your analysis at the macro level.
In India we don’t talk about sex though we gave world KamaSutra and are second most populous country in the world. In small cities and towns the co-education is not a norm there are separate schools for girls and boys. We are not allowed to express our emotions/sexuality and hence people grow up with twisted (if I may say so) reality.
In the lower classes of India, husband beats up his wife and can get another wife and the wives can stay together too..my maid husband’s has done it..
You might be getting more offers than other women simply because you are a foreigner and with Hollywood and magazines men here would believe that 1) You don’t mind jumping into the bed..
2) This is a temporary phase for you ..you will go back to your own country so it would be a short lived one..
Hope you go back with good memories of our country and it’s men..you just have to meet the nice guys..!
on December 1, 2011
at 6:07 am
Interesting post but very very biased… we can’t expect anything better because you are a WOMAN. There are an equal number of women who cheat… not so openly like men but they do nevertheless. I would appreciate if you were to write an article about “Why (so many) women cheat.”
Of course men in other countries are so ’satisfied’ they don’t cheat at all.
on December 1, 2011
at 11:56 am
Very interesting investigation!
Even under the pure veneer of tradition and culture there might be lurking some reeking facts.
Hope you don’t get pestered by insane invitations in future and get to experience some good things as well about Indian males in near future.
on December 1, 2011
at 4:09 pm
Hi Angela,
Here are some facts. Convince yourself with some statistics. Your country leads the infidelity list
with 73%. You are in Bangalore since April 2011. How many Indian men have cheated you? The link is right at the bottom of posting
Which Country Has the Highest Rate of Infidelity
I have been getting a lot of visitors from all around the world.
Below is a list of countries that has brought the most traffic to my site Signs-of-a-Cheater.com with the top three below bringing the majority of the traffic.
1. United States (73%)
2. Canada (5%)
3. Russian Federation (5%)
4. Great Britain (UK)
5. Philippines
6. Australia
7. China
8. India
9. Germany
10. Netherlands
Is infidelity more of a problem in the US, Canada and Russia?
My site is currently too small to represent appropriate infidelity statistics around the world, but the topic is quite interesting.
Below is an excerpt from the Book, “Lust in Translation: Infidelity from Tokyo to Tennessee” (Penguin Books, 2007) by Pamela Druckerman.
Compared to the citizens of just about every other nation, Americans are the least adept at having affairs, have the most trouble enjoying them, and suffer the most in their aftermath and Pamela Druckerman has the facts to prove it.
The journalist’s surprising findings include:
• Russian spouses don’t count beach resort flings as infidelity
• South Africans consider drunkenness an adequate excuse for extramarital sex
• Japanese businessmen believe, “If you pay, it’s not cheating.”
The morning after François Mitterrand’s funeral, a photo showed the late president’s mistress and illegitimate daughter standing by his grave alongside his wife and sons. That tableau has become famous internationally as proof that the French are uniquely tolerant of extramarital affairs.
In fact, although French presidents seem to have an infidelity record approaching 100 per cent, ordinary Frenchmen claim to be quite faithful. In a 2004 national survey, just 3.8 per cent of married men and 2 per cent of women said they had had more than one sex partner in the past year (the best approximation of infidelity) — fewer than in similar surveys in the U.S. and the U.K.
If France isn’t the world capital of adultery, which country is? I set off around the world to find out.
I quickly discovered that global sex research is patchy and incomplete. Even serious researchers can’t even agree on what to call infidelity. Nigerians prefer the term “sexual networking.” The Finns use the morally neutral term “parallel relationships.” A French team uses an expression perhaps better suited for an accounting course: “simultaneous multi-partnerships.”
Then there’s the tricky matter of what constitutes cheating. A poll in one South African magazine had separate categories for men who cheat, and men who cheat “while drunk.” One American survey defined sex as “either vaginal or anal intercourse,” while another decided that sex is a “mutually voluntary activity with another person that involves genital contact and sexual excitement or arousal, that is, feeling really turned on, even if intercourse or orgasm did not occur.” Americans haven’t yet tried to count their so-called “emotional affairs,” in which the “cheaters” might never meet.
Many countries simply have no reliable sex statistics. National surveys are expensive, and many governments are either too prudish or too poor to help pay for them (private funding is seldom sufficient). America’s first representative national survey only got off the ground in the 1990s, after conservative members of Congress spent years trying to block it. Hints of Japan’s infidelity levels come only from the enormous size of the country’s paid-sex industry, which is famously frequented by married businessmen. A legal loophole permits a man and a woman to strike a private agreement for sex. Understandably, the state would rather not be confronted with the details.
In Russia, just talking about sex research can be hazardous. Soviet governments barely permitted any public discussion of sex, let alone a survey that might embarrass the government by showing that Russians were engaging in banned activities like extramarital affairs. And though the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, Russia’s Orthodox church keeps the current government from funding practically anything related to sex.
“There were never and will not be in the foreseeable future national surveys,” said Igor Kon, a septuagenarian who’s Russia’s most prominent sexologist. When I visited him in Moscow, Kon showed me the pamphlet in which a group of Russian academics denounced him as a “danger to the Russian society and state” because of his calls for basic sex education and research. Earlier, hoodlums had attacked him while he delivered a lecture at Moscow University, and vandals defaced the door to his apartment. Kon was bothered least when he got a phone call threatening to bomb his apartment, since if the caller was serious Kon would already be dead. “To kill someone in Moscow is not a big problem,” he explained.
Despite the lack of hard data, in Russia and elsewhere there are facts on the ground. In Moscow, women in their forties told me that, by necessity, they only date married men. That’s because, since the life expectancy for Russian men has fallen so sharply (to 59) that by age 65 there are just 46 men left for every 100 women.
And it was clear that Russian men flaunted this demographic advantage. With the exception of a pastor (who was sitting with his wife at the time), I didn’t meet a single married man in Russia who admitted to being monogamous.
A family psychologist whom I had intended to interview as an “expert” boasted about her own extramarital relationships and insisted that given Russia’s endemic alcoholism, violent crime, and tiny apartments, affairs are “obligatory.”
Muslim countries tend to be even stricter about sex research. It’s impossible to know how much cheating goes on in places like Iran, where convicted adulterers can be stoned to death. But again there are facts — or at least impressions — on the ground. In Indonesia, the most populous Muslim country, the middle-class women and men I met said that adultery is absolutely wrong because the Koran forbids it. Then they revealed that many of their married friends, and sometimes they themselves, had lovers. In these circles, the attitude toward affairs seemed almost casual: local slang for a no-strings romp was “afternoon nap,” and a brief love affair was a “wonderful interval.”
I didn’t find evidence anywhere in the world that religious people are particularly faithful. Within the social circles I studied in Indonesia, the fact that polygamy is legal seemed to legitimize the idea that a man won’t be satisfied with just one woman. “Polygamy is something that induces adultery, because before they get married for the second time there’s a period of adultery,” said sociologist Paulus Wirutomo of the University of Indonesia. “Islam is not permissive, but there’s an emphasis on formality.”
I did find that, all over, money shapes the rules of infidelity. Men in rich countries are generally much more faithful than their counterparts in poor ones. That’s in part because first-world cheaters tend to be punished more severely. In America, a single affair can mean losing your marriage, your assets, your status and your self respect. Just 3.9 percent of married American men said they’d had more than one partner in the last year, according to the 2004 General Social Survey carried out by the National Opinion Research Center. Even in wealthy countries where the taboo on cheating is weaker than in the U.S. — Australia, Switzerland and Italy, for instance — husbands claim to be quite faithful too.
Among women, it’s just the opposite. Women in poor countries say they cheat infrequently, perhaps because they have less financial and social clout than their husbands. But in wealthier countries, where the status of men and women is more equal, levels of male and female infidelity — while still quite low — are fairly equal too.
While it’s impossible to get an exact measure of infidelity, there are some clues about where the most cheating goes on. Beginning in the 1990s, researchers tracking the spread of HIV began extensively mapping sexual behavior in sub-Saharan Africa. Their findings were astonishing: in the tiny West African nation of Togo, with a population of less than six million, 37 percent of married or cohabiting men said they’ve had more than one sex partner in the last year (the figure includes polygamists). Trailing just behind the Togolese were men in Cameroon, the Ivory Coast, Mozambique and Tanzania. In South Africa, even the AIDS educator at a Cape Town metal company told me that of course he had a girlfriend as well as a wife.
And so the dubious title of world infidelity capital goes to a region: sub-Saharan Africa. And with ordinary citizens cheating at such astonishing levels, one can only imagine what African politicians are up to. Surely they put even French presidents to shame.
on December 1, 2011
at 4:29 pm
Hi Rajpriya….I can see that your site has so little traffic that Alexa hasn’t rated it so I get why you are doing this….but…. you really should publish your own user-generated content on your own site to try and boost your ratings. xo
on December 1, 2011
at 5:15 pm
Yes! Angela.
I have my own reasons for not entertaining too much traffic. There are times I am so busy attending to customers who needed their jobs the day before yesterday. I may not find time managing heavy traffic.
I just step in to write about my opinions to some postings.
I hope you understand.
Rajpriya
on December 1, 2011
at 5:38 pm
May be you’re right or may be you’re wrong, but the result that “Indian men cheat more” may be flawed. “Wrong sample,” I might say, or, as we say in our statistical lecture, sample is not correct representation of population
However, nice topic to ramble on. As far as Indian men go, SHY (no way), it’s just that general accepted norms tend to differ, not so open they are!
I would definitely agree to one of the reasons, more cash and more will be the spending, and for what? I rather not say! Kinda reminds me of the documentary “Inside Job” that reflected onto the increase in prostitution, clients were the wall street guys obviously.
on December 1, 2011
at 5:53 pm
Hi Rajpria
What site do you run. I am intrested in what you have written because there is a lot of info I did not consider myself on this, when I have read variety of articles in past.
You do have very intresting and unique theory on the subject at hand, and I would love to know more.
CAN YOU PLEASE POST A LINK FOR ME.
HARRY
PS THANKS IN ADVANCE BEFORE I FORGET.
on December 1, 2011
at 6:08 pm
@Rajpriya
Well, this is one way of winning an argument. What do call it? blockling!
on December 1, 2011
at 6:16 pm
Hi Harry,
I donot run any sites for publc discussions or forums of my own. When I stumble upon sites like the NRI, I contribute my opinion.
I have read your comments. I work as a consultant serving the Digital Printing Industry who need assistance to get through to the ultimate printed product from the designing stage.
Rajpriya
on December 1, 2011
at 6:37 pm
@Joseph James,
Did you say I have won an argument? And you call it blockling!? Never heard of that word ever in my life. I learnt to speak English as soon I was born.
I have lernt to lose as well. Just like my grand daughter 8 days ago stunned me saying “Opa When I went to bed last night I was four. When I got up this morning I am Five”
It was on her Birthday. I speak to her in German/
She is my little Princess and I love to lose my arguments to her, not it pleases her but me.
on December 1, 2011
at 6:59 pm
@Rajpriya
Didn’t know you were a modern day ‘Abhimanyu.’
Of course, you wouldn’t have heard of the word. It was a clumsy attempt to coin a word (blog+heckling) to describe what you are doing to Angela.
A grandmother, eh? ‘Age cannot wither her, nor custom stale her infinite variety.’ The Bard is right as ever.