Deutschland Uber Alles

Sreesha Sreenivasan

July 28, 2010

Why do Indians choose Frankfurt as a transit point rather than a destination in this highly developed European nation?

Indian : A word used to refer to a person whose ‘usual country of residence’ is India or in other words one who is a legal citizen of India (let’s forget the American Indians for now. Even if one wishes not to forget that, one can always remember that the reason why American natives were called Indians was because Columbus thought he had reached India).

Indian: A synonym for immigrant? Maybe not, considering that the top five countries of origin for immigrants are in the African continent. But then, it would be more appropriate to call asylum seekers from Africa as refugees since they are fleeing from drought, hunger, poverty and persecution. Not so for Indians. For the educated, skilled and employed, India is a beautiful and quite a comfortable country to live in. Also, apparently amongst all the countries in the world, Indians have the highest Happiness Quotient (HQ). Yet hoards of Indians leave the shores of India for more exciting, foreign lands. These lands have typically been USA, UK, Canada or Australia.

Though Europe is an equally enticing and challenging continent, very few immigrants from India chose Europe as their future home. Germany in particular is the most advanced and the richest European country. It has the best social benefit programme for its citizens and immigrants. Right from the first day of arrival, a refugee is provided food, shelter and health insurance. Agreed, Indians do not migrate as refugees rather as skilled or semi-skilled assets. So why do Indians avoid this incredibly attractive country? The answer lies in the immigration requirements of Germany. One primary requirement is an adequate command of the German language. As the inimmitable legend, Amitabh Bachhan once said, I(ndians) can talk English, I(ndians) can walk English, I(ndians) can laugh English, I(ndians) can run English. But learn another foreign language? Na re baba na!

Between the 22 officially scheduled languages and the dozen unofficial ones, Indians already know bits and pieces of far too many languages. German is not an easy language to learn either. Everything has a gender. So every living or non-living entity has either a male, female or neutral gender assigned to it (him/her). If one was to replace the noun with a pronoun in the sentence, “Please pass the bag around”, it would become “Please pass her around”, since bag is a feminine entity. Similarly, “The machine is broken. Get her fixed” or “I have hidden the house key near the front door, you will find him under the doormat”. As hilarious as it may sound, learning German is not a laughing matter. So why would the Indians, educated in English bother to cram a foreign a language into their already over-taxed brains? There are far simpler options available wherein their only concerns will be unpacking and setting up base rather than spending bewildering nights delving into the depths of accusative, dative, nominative and genitive cases of German grammar.

However, Germany with the largest economy in Europe has the greatest shortage of IT staff. The German Information Technology Association estimates that twenty-five percent of IT vacancies remain unfilled. While low skilled workers will find it difficult to gain permission to work in Germany, highly skilled workers find it easier to gain permanent residency since the government is making an attempt to lure highly skilled workers into Germany. The professions most in need are natural scientists (biologists, chemists, physicists), engineers, professors and scientific personnel in high technology areas. But with German being the official working language, may God Bless those who decide to move to this green pasture for their German green card.

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By: Rajpriya on May 16, 2012 at 5:16 pm @Payal, One more thing needs clarification. You have moved into a country that belongs to the European Union. I think the country is not Germany. Only those people who are Citizens of one EU country can go to another EU country to work. Because you say the Google translator does not do a good job translating German websites I presume you and husband don’t know the German language and you are certainly not in Germany. If you were in Germany you could go to the “Ausländeramt” (Foreign Office) in the area where you live in, to apply for your Residence Permit instead of going to a website. As long as you hold an Indian Passport or any other country that does not belong to the EU you are not a citizen of the EU and therefore while living in one EU country you will not be issued any work permit to work in another EU country. The Residence Permit is issued only for the country that issued it and it is not for the whole of the European Union countries. Unless you have a German Residence Visa with an endorsement that you can take up employment you can not get a work permit to work in Germany. It may seem messy to you but if these regulations were not in place there will be heavy human trafficking within the EU. There was a time when people came in to the EU as refugees and applied for Asylum in one country then moved to another and applied for Asylum there as well.
By: Payal on May 16, 2012 at 6:55 pm Me & my husband are working in Slovakia and getting a job in Germany through inter company hiring. Now the same question, do you know what comes first, Work Permit or Residence Permit?? Also when I was browsing through google I found something like Germany van der Elst visas. Do you have any idea about this??
By: Payal on May 16, 2012 at 6:59 pm And I am aware of all the stuff you mentioned about if one works in one EU country he will not be issued any work permit to work in another EU country and thats the reason i asked you for work permit application process comes first or residence permit. I think u didnt understand my question well
By: Rajpriya on May 17, 2012 at 12:27 am @Payal, A Residence Permit with permission to work in Germany comes first as far as the German Govt. is concerned. When you say you are getting a job through inter company hiring the company offering you the job should know the procedure. Or else go to the German Embassy in Bratislava Hviezdoslavovo nám. 10 813 03, Bratislava Slovakia or write an email to: public@germanembassy.sk
By: Payal on May 17, 2012 at 7:19 am Unfortunately no and it’s their first time too. Infact that’s the reason I was searching for more info online. My husband has already mailed at the id provided by you, just awaiting answer from them now(hope they are quick). Lets see. Anyways, thanks for all the help Rajpriya. And do let me know if you have any clue on what Germany van der Elst visas are meant for and for how long are these visas valid?
By: Rajpriya on May 17, 2012 at 7:46 am @Payal, Just a while ago I received some information about the van der Elst Visas. Here is the link in English and it is comprehensive in detail and give you some hope.. http://www.workpermit.com/germany/van_der_elst_visas.htm Wish you all the luck and hope you succeed coming over with your husband.
By: Nilay Bhattacharya on May 17, 2012 at 8:10 am Hi Raj, Ich woolte Sie informieren das ich bin Eine Machinenbauingenieure von Kalkutta(Diploma)und habeIch auch Industrial Management Kurs abgeschlossen fuer 2 Jahriges studuim in england. Danach habe ich eine Reintregration Mngement Training in Riedenburg/deutshland absolviert als stipendiate von Bundes Regierung.Ich habe auch eine IT kurs in Kolkata gemcht in 2001. So weit ich weiss in BRD Renten Alt ist 65 und deshalb dachte ich fuer eine neue Anfang in BRD mit Blaue Karte. Ich bedanke mich fuer Ihr Bemuehengen und Raten, mit freundlichem gruessen Nilay
By: Rajpriya on May 17, 2012 at 8:42 am Hi Nilay, Ich weiß nicht, ob das Diplom Sie haben von Kalkutta in Deutschland anerkannt würde. Trotzdem ist es wichtig, ein Jobangebot, eine Aufenthaltserlaubnis mit Arbeitgenehmigung in Deutschland zu erhalten. Aber ab 50 Jahren kann man nicht eine ausreichende Rente bekommen mit denen Sie bequem leben können. Ich kann Sie keinen Job finden. Ich bin auch kein Arbeitvermittler. Ich kann nicht sagen, welche Art von Arbeit Sie mit Ihren Qualifikationen finden können. Sie müssen einen Weg finden, Arbeitsplätze in Deutschland zu beantragen und dann die notwendigen Papiere beantragen. Der einzige Weg für Sie übrig bleibt. Es tut mir Leid. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Rajpriya
By: pradeepnanda on July 3, 2012 at 8:53 pm i m planning to do MS in germany , is ther any racism towards Indians in germany???
By: Rajpriya on July 4, 2012 at 2:47 am @Pradeepnanda, Enter “Racism in Germany” to make a Google search to read all answers. There are groups of people called the Skinheads, Neo Nazis and Hell’s Angels. But the German law keeps them under control. Even conservative German people do exist who may not openly show their dissent towards colored foreigners but one can easily read it on their face. If one knows how to look the other way you could laugh your way through. Racism in Germany has never bothered me. If you think of it, there are enough Indians who are against white people. It’s similar to a bunch of schoolboys harassing girls who happen to pass them. If you are in the majority with racial thinking you go about teasing a minority group. There are Indian men married to German women. Many German men marrying South East Asian women is a trend now. Personally I don’t think you should worry about studying in Germany. Is there any place on this earth where there is no racism?
By: Amol on July 4, 2012 at 6:02 am Rajpriya, Greetings! I’m applying for post of Communication Coordinator with IFOAM to be based in Bonn. Please guide me: 1. What will be cost of leaving in Bonn for me with my wife (home maker) and two kids? 2. What salary expectation will be ideal? Pls support with your inputs. Best Regards. Amol
By: Rajpriya on July 4, 2012 at 6:36 am @Amol, In fact Bonn was the former capital of Germany. From the time the city of Berlin was made the capital of Germany after the reunification of the East and West in the early 90’s housing has become a slightly cheaper, mainly because all the diplomats and employees of embassies moved away to Berlin. http://bit.ly/NwZJuv The link above will give you an idea of the area in Bonn,- No. Of rooms – living area in sq. meters and the price respectively. The prices given are exclusive of water, electricity and garbage collection and VAT adding another 200 Euros. I have no idea what salary your particular job might give you to be very frank. Once you get your residence and work permit you are entitled apply for children’s allowance once you become a tax payer in Germany and here is an info link: http://www.howtogermany.com/pages/kindergeld.html Wish you all the Best of luck.
By: Rajpriya on July 4, 2012 at 7:05 am @Amol, Cost of living in Bonn? Will largely depend on how lavish you are. You have to pay for Heating, Water, Electricity, Winter clothing for all of you, and Garbage collection.
By: Rajpriya on July 4, 2012 at 9:03 am @Admin, Das war großartig und wunderbar. Gut gemacht, Vielen Dank.
By: Amol on July 4, 2012 at 11:12 am Thanks Rajpriya! A simple vegetarian life. Summaries: House rent: E 600 Maintenance: E 200 Grocery: E 500 (aprox) Education: E 400 (2 kids) Travel: E 100 Insurance: E 50 Medical: E 100 Clothes: E 200 Other: E 200 So shall I ask for Euro 2500 net (without tax). They may b able to offer E 2,000 Pls guide
By: Rajpriya on July 4, 2012 at 12:09 pm @Amol, In Germany all jobs have fixed salaries. So I don’t know if you could ask for any. But I am certain you might get something around that amount. In Germany it is PAYE tax system. You medical Insurance and social security insurances will be taken away from your salary. Working in Germany you must be falling under normal taxation system. Eventuallaly, you may be able to claim a housing allowance if your salary does not leave reasonable amount of money for living. An assessment will be made based on your salary. Education for your children is free upto University Entrance. If you get the job you will be ok. Don’t worry.
By: rahul singh on July 11, 2012 at 4:03 pm Hiee… Does Anyone knows M C bauchemie company in bottrop??? how is it?? i have got an offer from M C bauchemie.. should i go ahead n join it..??? presently i stay in INDIA and was planning to shift to germany to work with MC Bauchemie. how is bottrop to live in
By: Rajpriya on July 11, 2012 at 4:38 pm @ rahul singh, There are NO bad companies in Germany. I would say you should consider yourself damned lucky to get an offer from a German company. Any place in Germany is good to live. Bottrop is north of Düsseldorf. Surrounded by cities like Essen, Oberhausen, Mülheim a huge Industrial hub. Take it before some one else gets it. What are you waiting for? http://www.mc-bauchemie.de/en/Company.aspx
By: rahul singh on July 13, 2012 at 5:41 pm how is bottrop as a place to settle in????
By: Rajpriya on July 13, 2012 at 6:34 pm @rahul singh, I could not really tell what you are looking for. If I were you and I was looking for a job in Germany and I get one I would just go take the job and settle down and adapt myself to that place. That is exactly what I did four and half decades ago. I have passed through Bottrop many times and its just another Industrial city like any other in Germany. The population of this city is around 120,000. That time when I was looking jobs I always had in mind the famous saying “Beggars can’t be choosy”.
By: Shalini sahani on July 16, 2012 at 11:08 am Hi Rajpriya, I have been reading this post from 1 month, and need your help… My husband has received a offer from German company in Munich. He is an engineer, How is life in Munich, is it good (Living cost please?),What is the tax slab for couples.He is been granted with resident permit (to work). I have been granted a dependent visa (Family reunion), does this mean I cannot work at all ? I am an engineer too. please guide us. thank you so much, Shalini sahani
By: Rajpriya on July 16, 2012 at 12:08 pm @Shalini, Munich is the third biggest city in Germany after Hamburg and Berlin. It’s an interesting city to live in. The salaries paid for an Engineer should be good enough to live a comfortable life. If you do not have children you should first opt for smaller apartment first closer to husbands’ work pace if possible. Once you get used to Munich and if your husband could drive (keeping on the right side of the road with steering wheel on left of the car) and move to a suburb around Munich for a quieter environment you should be ok. There is a restriction to take to work for wives granted with family reunion visas for certain number years. If I am not mistaken it’s 5 years. However you could approach the Arbreitsamt (The Govt. managed employment authority for a work permit.) A useful Tip: If you could on your own find an employer while you are in Munich they could obtain a work permit by telling the employment authority of your qualification it might be that you too could get employed sooner. It is important to enroll yourself for German language classes as soon as you are here so that you could be fluent as soon as you can: an added advantage to help you find employment soon. There are several American companies in and around Munich you could approach while you are there and employed there would be easier. Cost living should be bearable in Germany because the annual increment your husband would get always keeps abreast of inflation as a normal rule in Germany. Living in Munich you are so close Austria, Switzerland and France the Alps running through all these countries including Germany one could not ask for more. Here is the comprehensive German taxation Wikipedia link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Germany Wish you and your husband all the best.
By: Sumit on July 16, 2012 at 3:07 pm Hello Rajpriya, Let me start by saying that your blog is very helpful for people in the process of transition and shifting to Germany. My heartfelt congratulations for doing such a great job. I have been offered a scientist position at Helmholtz Center for Env. Reseach. in Magdeburg. I am currently in USA and will be moving over to Magdebug in a month time. I was wondering what is the best way to look for an apartment. Also, from whatever I have seen on the net it seems that German apartments are usually without the kitchen, is this a norm and is it very expensive to get the kitchen furnished. Also could you make some comment about general dos and donts in regard with staying in a east German city. I have heard all kind of things abut east Germany and I am not sure what to take out of it. Best regards, Sumit
By: Rajpriya on July 16, 2012 at 4:26 pm @Sumit, As matter of fact Sreesha Srinivasan really started this blog. At some stage I had barged in and I have not heard from her ever since. I only hope she is not offended by my taking over her blog. Magdeburg is part of former East Germany. It is true the East German people had been suppressed by the communist rule for over forty years. They were deprived of good education and many other comforts that were part of the western part of Germany. Though the fall of Berlin wall was very welcome the youth found that they were not able get better jobs and get on in life because of this. I have driven through Magdeburg a few times on the motorway but have ever had an opportunity to experience how life would be there. Things cannot be that bad at the moment. I won’t give you any adverse comments about Magdeburg because I myself have not heard anything bad. Things are improving. You should be OK. I think I answered some of your queries sometime ago. As I said before, it is best to move into a hotel in Magdeburg first and then look for an apartment your self where your German colleagues in your work place would help you. Trying to book an apartment before you get there might not be that advisable. It is true that most apartments are rented with out fitted kitchens because the new people who move like to have their own type of kitchen. However you still could find ones with fitted kitchens. You can buy kitchens to suit your budget but may not be the best. You still will have a good choice to go by. I hope this info helps.
By: Rajpriya on July 16, 2012 at 5:54 pm @Sumit Here is some news that could encourage you. The 16-year-old schoolboy Shouryya Ray lives in Dresden, with his family almost close to Polish and Czech Republic border in the Eastern Part of Germany. So there are Indian families living safely over there. Read the news about this Indian Genius below: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150225/Shouryya-Ray-solves-puzzles-posed-Sir-Isaac-Newton-baffled-mathematicians-350-years.html
By: Sumit on July 18, 2012 at 11:19 am Hello Rajpriya, Thanks for your kind reply. Let me ask you one more question, how easy or tough is it to get a driving license in Germany. Would you know is US driving license is valid over there ? Best regards, Sumit
By: Rajpriya on July 18, 2012 at 12:10 pm @sumit, Your US driving license will be valid for a period of year. Because you are used to driving on the right side of the road. Getting a German driving license won’T be difficult. After one year you need to get a German driving license for the simple reason that they can keep record of traffic offences in Europe. You are allowed to collect 18 points after which limit you driving license will taken away and to get it back you have to go through a rigorous IQ test.
By: Rajpriya on July 18, 2012 at 1:35 pm @Sumit Correction: Your US driving license will be valid for a period of ONE year.
By: Sumit on July 18, 2012 at 2:17 pm Rajpriya, Thanks a ton. So I don’t need to worry about the license at least for a year. Take Care, Sumit
By: Rajpriya on July 18, 2012 at 3:23 pm @sumit, While you are driving in Germany if you are stopped by German Polizei they would tell exactly what you should worry about. Until then you are ok. OK I will take care
By: Lakshmi Narayana on August 25, 2012 at 7:36 pm Hii,Rajpriya I have completed my engineering in electronics and communication background and applied for the Masters programme for information technology in SRH Heidelberg University.Could you guide me about the university ,whether it is good or not and the career after the course and also the opprtunities for part times. please guide us. thank you so much, Lakshmi Narayana
By: Rajpriya on August 26, 2012 at 2:53 am @Lakshmi Narayana, The Link below will give all the information about this University. http://www.fh-heidelberg.de/de/ Heidelberg is a beautiful city. There are no good and bad universities in Germany. All universities in Germany are well known for their high standard of education. The world’s most popular Heidelberg printing machines are manufactured in Wiesloch-Waldorf a suburb of this city. When you are in this city you can’t miss its Headquarters and their training center right in front of the busy railway station. The first thing is to get your admission. Then come over and start looking around for part time jobs. Part time jobs will be after your hours of study. This will depend on what you are prepared to do and how long. If you would find a job is what I cannot predict. It will depend mostly on you. There is a huge international student community in Heidelberg. I am certain they are all in some kind of part time employment. If you read my other messages in this post you will find most answers. After finishing your education you start to worry about your career because by that time you would know what your chances are in Germany more than I could tell. Hope the information was useful. I wish all the best for your admission.
By: Pragya on August 31, 2012 at 6:53 pm Hi Rajpriya, I am an Engineer and I got a job offer from Deka Bank, Frankfurt, germany. They have not hired an Indian before. They are trying to get a work permit for me. But they are facing problem. They say that- the problem is that you need a working permit to get a contract and you need a contract to get a working permit. So there is basically a circle. Is getting work permit so difficult? I obviously dnt want them to be stuck in this and loose the offer. Can you please help me with this.
By: Gaurav Lanjekar on September 2, 2012 at 6:35 am Hi RajPriya, Thank you for your amazing blog. My wife is getting a job offer in Germany. Currently both of us reside in India. My question is, Will i be able to travel with her on a family re-union/spouse visa. Or she would have to travel alone first and only then i can go.. how does this work.
By: Rajpriya
on September 2, 2012
at 7:15 am
@Pragya,

The only people who could help you in this matter are the Deka Bank, Frankfurt. They should apply for your work permit with a contract of employment in your name at the Frankfurt *”Arbeitsamt” for your employment in their Bank. Once it is granted they should apply to the **“Ausländeramt” in Frankfurt filling in the ***“Verpflichtungserklärung”.

Once they are granted they should send copies of all documents directly to the German Embassy in your area of residence in India and a copies to you. You would then apply for your visa for entry to Germany with these documents as proof of your employment contract and sponsorship.

*”Arbeitsamt” = Employment office.
**“Ausländeramt” = Foreign Office.
**“Verpflichtungserklärung” = Sponsor Form.

I hope the information helps.
By: Rajpriya on September 2, 2012 at 8:50 am @Gaurav Lanjekar For comprehensive information contact the German Embassy in your area. They are the people who can give you accurate and to date information. Follow the link below: http://www.india.diplo.de/Vertretung/indien/en/05__Mumbai/Visa/family__reunion__visa.html
By: Rita Sharma on September 8, 2012 at 7:38 pm My husband is in germany for MS on student visa once he completes his MS and gets a job and a work permit in germany… can i go to germany on spouse visa and apply for MS there in universities and do MS without applying for student visa instead applying for a spouse visa as my funding of education and living expenses will be beared by him what all the things i have to show to university and german consulates for my funding of MS ther will the account of my husband stating the required fung will do the needful for both or do i have to show the account with the required funds on my own name and then after completing my MS will i be allowed to work there
By: Rajpriya on September 9, 2012 at 6:16 am @Rita Sharma, To make a long story short here is what you do. When your husband completes his MS and if he is successful in being granted a work permit that would also give him a Residence Visa you need to apply for a family reunion visa (Spouse Visa) to join your husband. Once you are granted the spouse visa and you are in Germany you become a resident of Germany. Once you are a resident and have proof of it you can gain admission to any university in Germany to do your MS, without any further visa requirement. As a resident of Germany you do NOT require any student visa to study in Germany except the required finances. You have to live in Germany for a specified number of years as an immigrant resident before you would be granted a work permit. However, every thing would depend on your husband getting his work permit after he completes his MS in Germany. I can not predict what the immigrant laws would look like at that time.
By: student on September 19, 2012 at 4:23 pm i want to come to germany only because of their famous red light districts.I think there is no other option in world to german red light districts, they are the best.Are they safe to visit and under budget?
By: Anmol on October 14, 2012 at 12:30 pm Hi rajpriya … My name is Anmol Pathak, i am from New Delhi, i am a Hotel management graduate, have worked with hotels nearby three years in food and beverage department. I want to work in germany. I have also cleared the A1 language exam from Max Mueller institute, as an external and successfully got 80% of marks. I am very passionate to work in germany especially in hotels. Now after succeding the exams ,i am really confused where should i go, i dont want to go to the consultancies, i am not a rich man but a real hard working guy. Where should i go.?? what should i do now.??? residence in germany will not be a problem for me.As i have got people who can give me asssistance for living germany (Hamburg). Now i want to work in germany at work permit. Please help ..!! I am really frustrated now.
By: monalisa on October 25, 2012 at 7:11 am Awesome job Shreesha and Rajpriya. You have devoted so much of your time and helped people with elaborate and honest answers. Really impressive. Answers a lot of my questions and now I am clearly better informed. Thanks a ton!!
By: Arvind on October 28, 2012 at 6:18 pm Pragya , I wanted to ask . i am also trying to get some offer from german firm but i am not successful. How they hire ? how we can come to know about opportunities? Arvind
By: Arvind on October 28, 2012 at 6:19 pm I had couple of interviews but not successful yet. Arvind
By: Vinod on November 2, 2012 at 8:26 pm Hi… I have completed mechanical engineering…. and I have a plan to do GIMS in university of applied science hof, I chose this because I ll gt the certificate frm Psg (a reputed college in south India) & hof…. can I go forward with this???
By: Savitha on November 16, 2012 at 2:04 pm Hi rajpriya, I Have completed my MS clinical nutrition,Currently workng as an health consultant with Amway. Now in a situation to move to germany since my hubby got a job offer there in frankfurt, how about the job openings there for indian dietitians? hw about the pay scale over there? any new certification required for indian Dieticians????
By: Rajpriya on November 16, 2012 at 3:55 pm @Savitha Unfortunately I am not an on expert on availability of kinds of employment you can get in Germany for various qualifications any one has obtained in India and the salaries you may get in Germany for those jobs. I can answer about Germany’s general Immigration laws if any one would want to come to Germany. I am totally ignorant about how Indian dieticians and many other Indian professionals can get jobs in Germany. You have to apply and find out for yourselves. However, I would advise you wait until your hubby’s job offer materializes and you are granted a family reunion visa to come over and then learn the language and become eligible for employment to find one. Under a family reunion visa you may not be granted a work visa until a few years of residence in Germany. I have given the address of Amway in Germany below. It’s near Berlin. Please write to them to find out if you could work for them. The distance from Frankfurt to Berlin is ca. 600 km. Amway GmbH Benzstr. 11 b – c 82178 Puchheim Germany Tel. +49 89 80094 – 0 Fax +49 89 808739
By: Harsha on November 18, 2012 at 12:13 pm @Arvind, I am also trying to get a job offer to work in Germany while staying in India. How could you manage to get interview calls? Please let me know the job portals where you had uploaded your CV.
By: Shai on November 19, 2012 at 6:47 pm Aber die deutsche Sprache ist so einfach zu lernen. Man buchstabiert alles als man spricht! (Was that right? My German’s a bit rusty…)
By: Rajpriya on November 19, 2012 at 7:16 pm Wenn es so einfach wäre?
By: Rajpriya on November 19, 2012 at 7:36 pm @Shai, If you wrote that sentence your self then your know German and your German is not rusty. The following link would give some idea how easy German language is. http://allesaufdeutsch.wordpress.com/2008/05/11/die-schwere-deutsche-aussprache/