Deutschland Uber Alles

Sreesha Sreenivasan

July 28, 2010

Why do Indians choose Frankfurt as a transit point rather than a destination in this highly developed European nation?

Indian : A word used to refer to a person whose ‘usual country of residence’ is India or in other words one who is a legal citizen of India (let’s forget the American Indians for now. Even if one wishes not to forget that, one can always remember that the reason why American natives were called Indians was because Columbus thought he had reached India).

Indian: A synonym for immigrant? Maybe not, considering that the top five countries of origin for immigrants are in the African continent. But then, it would be more appropriate to call asylum seekers from Africa as refugees since they are fleeing from drought, hunger, poverty and persecution. Not so for Indians. For the educated, skilled and employed, India is a beautiful and quite a comfortable country to live in. Also, apparently amongst all the countries in the world, Indians have the highest Happiness Quotient (HQ). Yet hoards of Indians leave the shores of India for more exciting, foreign lands. These lands have typically been USA, UK, Canada or Australia.

Though Europe is an equally enticing and challenging continent, very few immigrants from India chose Europe as their future home. Germany in particular is the most advanced and the richest European country. It has the best social benefit programme for its citizens and immigrants. Right from the first day of arrival, a refugee is provided food, shelter and health insurance. Agreed, Indians do not migrate as refugees rather as skilled or semi-skilled assets. So why do Indians avoid this incredibly attractive country? The answer lies in the immigration requirements of Germany. One primary requirement is an adequate command of the German language. As the inimmitable legend, Amitabh Bachhan once said, I(ndians) can talk English, I(ndians) can walk English, I(ndians) can laugh English, I(ndians) can run English. But learn another foreign language? Na re baba na!

Between the 22 officially scheduled languages and the dozen unofficial ones, Indians already know bits and pieces of far too many languages. German is not an easy language to learn either. Everything has a gender. So every living or non-living entity has either a male, female or neutral gender assigned to it (him/her). If one was to replace the noun with a pronoun in the sentence, “Please pass the bag around”, it would become “Please pass her around”, since bag is a feminine entity. Similarly, “The machine is broken. Get her fixed” or “I have hidden the house key near the front door, you will find him under the doormat”. As hilarious as it may sound, learning German is not a laughing matter. So why would the Indians, educated in English bother to cram a foreign a language into their already over-taxed brains? There are far simpler options available wherein their only concerns will be unpacking and setting up base rather than spending bewildering nights delving into the depths of accusative, dative, nominative and genitive cases of German grammar.

However, Germany with the largest economy in Europe has the greatest shortage of IT staff. The German Information Technology Association estimates that twenty-five percent of IT vacancies remain unfilled. While low skilled workers will find it difficult to gain permission to work in Germany, highly skilled workers find it easier to gain permanent residency since the government is making an attempt to lure highly skilled workers into Germany. The professions most in need are natural scientists (biologists, chemists, physicists), engineers, professors and scientific personnel in high technology areas. But with German being the official working language, may God Bless those who decide to move to this green pasture for their German green card.

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By: Rajpriya on February 6, 2012 at 9:05 am @Jobs Since you are MSc in Chemistry already you may be lucky to find a possibility to work in one of the departments of the University. It all depends on the University where you want follow your course of studies. In large cities like Berlin or Munich you may be able find jobs outside the university but then a proficiency in the German language may be essential. First make a choice of your university. Then I could find the possibilities of a job. It is always better to be prepared to survive without a job at least for a few months so that you don’t get desperate for money as soon as you are here.. You can follow the link below to decide in which university you want gain admission to follow your MS in Chemistry in Germany in the English Language and then apply for admission. Wish you all the best. http://www.learn4good.com/great_universities/universities_germany.htm
By: sonum on March 7, 2012 at 10:59 am hello i want to know about P.R possibilities in germany after the completion of masters degree. i am planning to apply for masters in biomedical engineering , as i had completed my graduation in same field. please tell is it would be beneficial and easy to settle in germany for me. thanking you
By: Amol on March 31, 2012 at 12:45 pm Hi Sreesha! A nice post. I’m based in India and have experienced in Organic (bio in German) industry for more than 10 years now. Starting from farming to selling Organics (b2c and b2b) enriched my portfolio. M.sc. (in Agriculture) with MBA in Marketing is educational back up. German knowledge- nil at this moment. Family: Wife, a son and a daughter. Germany being global hub for Organics I would love to work their to enrich my experience and contribute to fullest of my potential. Thus I’m exploring possibilities to opt some opportunities to work in some good NGOs (like IFOAM) or businesses in Germany. Can you please suggest how to move ahead? Thanking you in anticipation. Regards. Amol
By: ROHITH on April 29, 2012 at 6:12 pm i am a mechanical engineer working in the middle east for 2 years in pipeline field. my dream to to work and migrate to Germany. i also want to do my MBA in Germany. what are the procedures and how can i make my dream come true some body please respond to this
By: Rajpriya on April 29, 2012 at 7:30 pm @Rohith, Your dream can come true according news published in the German newspapers a few days ago. There is a discussion in the German Bundestag (Parliament) about filling shortages of Highly Qualified Engineers from NON EU countries. Laws are are supposed to be passed soon easing migration rules for qualified people. They are to issue Blue Cards to qualified people for three years first, if you can find jobs after which period they will be allowed to stay permanently with their families here. With sufficient working knowledge in the German language the permission may granted in two years. There is a plan to give a six months’ visa to interested people to come to Germany to find jobs. Further if you were to complete your study in a German university you are to be given permission to stay for one and a half more years to find a job. Things are changing favorable for people wanting jobs in Germany. I will post any news here time and again here. Though I may not be find jobs for you I may be able to assist in many other preparations if you find jobs. I have posted some information about studying in Germany under this post. Please look at some earlier comments. Rajpriya
By: Rajpriya on April 29, 2012 at 7:35 pm @Rohith, Correction: Though I may not be able to find jobs for you, I may be able to assist you in many other preparations if you find jobs and finally settle down here. Same if you want to study here.
By: Asif on April 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm hi…am an engineering graduate wishing to work in Germany. Can we apply for jobs in Germany through jobsites.? Can we get one by applying while in India? Or do we need to go in visiting visaand try for jobs. Am presently working here with TCS and not in situation for leave. Can i apply for a job from here? please reply.
By: Rajpriya on April 30, 2012 at 1:31 pm Hi Asif, Yes, you can apply from there. The chances are less since they can not interview you personally. However, I would say there is no harm trying. There are jobs where you can work in English language. Apply to private companies. I have posted some links earlier if you scroll back. Wish you all the best. Rajpriya
By: Rajpriya on April 30, 2012 at 1:39 pm Here is the link to the news for people from Non EU countries who want to migrate to Germany for employment. Remember the German Govt. does offer this facility only to Indian citizens meaning anyone from a country outside the European Union can apply for jobs. So the sooner you act the sooner you may have a chance. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-04-02/news/31275401_1_german-labour-market-annette-schavan-foreigners Rajpriya
By: Amol on April 30, 2012 at 1:58 pm Hi Rajpriya! Seems you missed my earlier post. Reposting it for your ready reference and awaits your valuable feedback. I’m based in India and have experienced in Organic (bio in German) industry for more than 10 years now. Starting from farming to selling Organics (b2c and b2b) enriched my portfolio. M.sc. (in Agriculture) with MBA in Marketing is educational back up. German knowledge- nil at this moment. Family: Wife, a son and a daughter. Germany being global hub for Organics I would love to work their to enrich my experience and contribute to fullest of my potential. Thus I’m exploring possibilities to opt some opportunities to work in some good NGOs (like IFOAM) or businesses in Germany. Can you please suggest how to move ahead? Thanking you in anticipation. Regards. Amol
By: Rajpriya on April 30, 2012 at 3:01 pm @Amol, The news about letting Non EU residents was published in the news papers only two days ago. May be the reason for not responding to your earlier post. Sorry about that. I am certain you will find an opportunity to work n Germany. I really do not know much about this subject to be very frank. Google search might give some results. Mostly farms are privately owned in Germany and you may come across some opening. Germany is a great country if you could find a job. I sure will inform you when I know more about this industry. Wish you all the best of luck. Rajpriya
By: Rajpriya on April 30, 2012 at 3:07 pm @Amol, Here is a link and there isa contact information on it. Try it. http://organic-germany.com/
By: Rajpriya on April 30, 2012 at 3:16 pm @Amol. Here are 3 more links on organic production. http://www.organic-market.info/web/Europe/Germany/BioFach/220/228/0/11941.html http://www.germanfoods.org/consumer/facts/organicfood.cfm http://www.organic-bio.com/en/links/ Rajpriya
By: Amol on May 1, 2012 at 3:45 pm Rajpriya! Extremely thankful for sharing the information and labour taken to guide me. 1. How to get process running? To be honest with you I’ll not be in position to come there and find a job. So trying my level BEST to find jobs there from here. 2. I may be suitable candidate for Organic farming, international trade, NGOs, Retail management etc. in Organic industry. So for me I find it’s wide scope. What you feel? 3. I already started contacted few. But it seems that as I’m not German speaking person they’re not considering my candidature for any job. To quote an example- Alnatura- one of the largest Organic retailer in Germany replied that company being with 100% German speaking culture they would not consider my candidature. Please guide how to tackle this issues. Thanking you a lot again. Amol
By: Rajpriya on May 1, 2012 at 5:22 pm @Amol, The language could be the biggest barrier to get employed in Germany particularly in farming. As I before all agricultural farms small, medium and large are privately owned and only by Germans. All employment opportunities are open mostly to Germans only. However please don’t give up. Keep trying. If I come across any information that may seem suitable f or you I certainly would pass it on to you. To tell you the truth when I first came to Germany in 1974 I did not know the German language. When I was offered employed my employer said I could learn it at my own pace. During that time there were more employment opportunities. Wish you some luck anyway. Rajpriya
By: Amol on May 1, 2012 at 5:42 pm Rajapriya! Thanks for the quick and valuable inputs. 1. Thanks for openness to explore possibilities for me. Not only Organic farming but pls support with your valuable inputs in Organic wholesaling, Organic retailing- which are my key strength and 10+ years of experience. Organic promotion (NGOs) is also one more area of interest. 2. I’m putting my BEST efforts and contacting all possible options. Your support will be cream on the cake. 3. It’s pleasing to know you also started your journey with NO GERMAN way. These days are far better than 1974. At least we do language translation tools handy. Thanking you again. Organically…. Amol
By: Rajpriya on May 1, 2012 at 6:02 pm @Amol, It would really be nice and easy if people are allowed to use translation tools while being employed in German companies but for all practical purposes that could not be done I visit German customer sites to sort out problems. When you are seated in front of 15 people and you are questioned you won’t be using language translation tools to answer them. It just happened I was at home off from work for a few days. The reason I was responding quickly. It may be different from tomorrow having to go back to work. Anyway will keep in touch. Rajpriya
By: Aaron on May 3, 2012 at 12:21 am any idea as to how are the job opportunities for an electronics and instrumentation engineering graduate (fresher)? Thanks in advance!
By: Rajpriya on May 3, 2012 at 9:09 am @Aaron, Make a google search with “Electronic and Instrumentation Engineering job vacancies in Germany”. You will be surprised about the opportunities that are available. Send applications to the ones you think would suit you. Herzlichen Glueckwunsch. When you find one let me know. Rajpriya
By: Avneet on May 4, 2012 at 6:07 pm Hi, I am Avneet. I am doing B.E in Mechanical Engineering with about 65% which is due to complete in June 2012. i have 84% in 10th and 70 % in +2. I wish to Pursue MS(Mechanical/Automotive/Production) further from Germany. I am going to start German Language course alongside other requirements Of GRE/Ielts. Can you recommend/help me with some Universities that i am eligible of. I am trying for Spring 2013 Session. Thanks in Advance
By: Raj on May 6, 2012 at 9:51 am I have 14 years of experience in IT industry and currently working in India as a Project Manager in MNC. I would like to know will there be any opportun ity for me to get a job in Germant in same field in management ? I had been to Germany twice in 2008 and liked the place. what are the chances of an experienced IT person to get a job in Germany. I have done master in computer science and PMP certified. Regards, Raj
By: Rajpriya on May 6, 2012 at 12:41 pm @Raj, Try these: http://www.toytowngermany.com/jobs/
By: Raj on May 6, 2012 at 3:42 pm Thanks RajPriya for your quick response, however, I could not open the link you suggested. I got error “You don’t have permission to access /jobs/ on this server” when I clicked the below link http://www.toytowngermany.com/jobs/ Regards, Raj
By: Rajpriya on May 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm @Raj, I just clicked and it opened at once. Have you disabled cookies? Or search “IT Jobs in Germany” on Google you will find many links.
By: Rajpriya on May 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm @Raj, try this Link. http://www.thelocal.de/jobs/
By: Akshay on May 7, 2012 at 6:09 pm Hello Raj, My name is Akshay, I am 30 years old from Bangalore. I am an Electrical Engineer by qualification with about 6 + years of Sales & Marketing operations experience in the IT/Technology industry. I have done my Engineering from REC, Warangal (Now called as NIT, Warangal) I have a good experience in driving & managing sales & marketing programs across global IT markets like the USA & Europe. I have a good comprehensive understanding of IT & Telecom markets in EU & America and have experience in handling business & key accounts in Germany. Almost all my experience has been supporting back-end operational & techno-marketing functional roles for Indian IT companies trying to penetrate the German & EU markets. I am thinking of exploring Germany as a possible work destination. I am not sure with my experience & background, what kind of job opportunities I can seek. I am also keen to enroll for a German language course in Goethe Institut in Bangalore. Can you please advise, if this is a wise decision ? What are the prospects of being employed with my experience ? Your assistance in this regard will be much appreciated. Warm regards, Akshay
By: Rajpriya on May 7, 2012 at 9:05 pm @Akshay, To get a job to manage Sales & Marketing in Germany you certainly would need excellent fluency in the German Language. I would say the Goethe Institute would be a good place to learn the basic German. Having said that I would also add that the grammatical fluency required for working in the IT sector would be quite different. I do not wish to scare you nor do I intend to discourage you. Learning the language is easier if you are in the country. Knowing the language is certainly an added advantage no doubt. In managerial positions you would need to organize and conduct sales meetings, communicate flawlessly and fluently in writing to delegate work. I have posted some links to find jobs in Germany. In some companies they employ people who speak English. It is fairly difficult to penetrate into the German market because Germany is a country that produces lots of goods for the IT sector. Were you able to succeed to penetrate into the German Market with Indian products? Every year I visit the CEBIT Messe (Exhibition) in Hannover. I see a quite a few Indian companies being represented there. I stop and chat to them because they are from India. How far they were able to promote their products I can not say. Most of them give their visiting cards but unfortunately I have not been able to keep in touch with any of them. Finally you must keep trying and if you make it here you won’t regret. I belong to the Advertising, Graphic Design for Packaging and Digital Printing sector that involves Offset, Flexo, Gravure and Screen-printing. I have little knowledge what kind of jobs you can find here except giving you some links where you have to apply your self. The IT branch is too extensive and depends on what kind of qualifications and experience a prospective employer is looking for. Nevertheless, wish all the success and luck.
By: ITspecialist on May 8, 2012 at 2:48 pm Hello Raj, I have 4+ years of experience in IT field in the area of datawarehousing. I am an engineering graduate and now planning to take up a specialised MSc degree from SRH University of Applied Sciences Heidelberg. The duration of the course is 1.5 years. I have few queries in this regard. 1) Am i permitted to stay after my studies to find a job? 2)As a foreign national how easy is it find a job with workpermit sponsor once i complete my studies given an average command over german language. 3) would my experience count while i search for the job there. My experience is highly relevant to the course i am planning to take? Please throw some light here. Thanks in advance.
By: Rajpriya on May 8, 2012 at 3:49 pm @ITspecialist, Yes! According to news about new regulations waiting to be passed you will be allowed to stay on after your studies for one and half years (18 months) to find a job. In the one and half years you may be able acquire working knowledge of the Language depending how much you engage yourself in learning German. It is easier to learn German while you are in Germany. Try to avoid talking in English as much as possible. Finding a job depends on your own capabilities in the field you are and how you convince your employers that you can do your job to their satisfaction. Yes! Your experience is an important factor and it certainly will help you find a job. Wish you all the best of luck. I will be happy to hear how you progress. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-04-02/news/31275401_1_german-labour-market-annette-schavan-foreigners
By: Rajpriya on May 8, 2012 at 4:11 pm @ ITspecialist, 1) Yes! You will be permitted to stay for 18 months to find a job. 2) As long as there is some one to offer you a job, the person employing will do the needful. If you find a job the rest is easy. 3) Only your future employer can assess your command of the German language. 4) Your experience will certainly count when it comes finding employment. 5) While you are in Germany usually all Germans will try to speak to you in English. Please avoid this. Even if speak you broken German don’t stop until you improve. 6) Go to a pub in the evenings after a few glasses of German beer you will get over you shyness and may start talking fluent German. 7) In my case it worked. I learnt most of my German from the Bild newspaper and in pubs and of course TV. Best of luck.
By: Rajpriya on May 8, 2012 at 4:14 pm @ITspecialist, Correction: Even if you speak broken German don’t stop until you improve and it won’t be long before start Deutsch Blah! Blah.
By: Nilay Bhattacharya on May 10, 2012 at 5:23 pm Hi Rajpriya, I am 59 years and fluent in German Language.I lived once app 6 years in Germany and worked as PRAKTIKANT in few Engineering Concerns.Did many Technical Translations from German-English and German. Can I get an working permit and staying permit now . I also have basic knowledge of Computers. Please reply. With warm regards Nilay Bhattacharya
By: Rajpriya on May 10, 2012 at 6:50 pm @Nilay, I would say taking your age it might be fairly difficult to get a work permit. Most companies look for people around 25 years to 40 years of age. To do translations there are plenty of people. It is not a profession as such where you might not find any vacancies. I am wondering why you left after six years of being in Germany. “Praktikants” as you know are young people who come from “Realschule” or “Hochschlue” to get a taste of any job they might want to pursue after leaving school. You say you have worked, as a “Praktikant” in a few Engineering companies and that is not normal. There is a distinguished difference between a “Praktikant” and a “Lehrling who is taken as an Apprentice to learn a profession and at the end 3 years he can work in that profession as a qualified person. I am certain you are aware of these facts. Warum hast du kein Lehre gemacht? Dinge hätte anders sein können. All “Praktikants” are made to do a peons’ job most of the time and paid little money. You don’t get any “qualification” certificates at the end. May be a “Zeugnis” testimony how you fared as a “Praktikant”. If there is an “Arbeitgeber” and if it is a job that cannot be performed by a German and the Arbeitgeber desperately needs some one with your experience you might stand a chance but that seems a rare thing. I hope I have explained fairly clearly.
By: Sumit on May 11, 2012 at 12:36 am Hello Rajpriya, First of all I must say that you are doing a tremendous job by sharing all this information. Keep it up. I hope it’s not a whole lot of trouble for you. I am planning to move to Germany from US in about 3 months time. I was wondering what is the best way to remotely look for an apartment. I am moving to Magdeburg and have taken a job as a research associate Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Sumit
By: Rajpriya on May 11, 2012 at 3:57 am @Sumit, Yes I know. Having lived here for so long giving information is not a problem. I came over to Germany in those days when there was no Internet, and little knowledge of the language and the country. I know exactly how difficult it was to get any information. Today it’s quite different. Communication beyond borders has become so easy. It does not cost me anything to give any one, any information I already know or can find out effortlessly. Coming to the information you need, I would advice you to stay in a cheap hotel at least for a week and look for an apartment yourself with facilities you may require. Magdeburg is in the Eastern part of Germany and the closest West German city is Wolfsburg where the Volkswagen cars are produced. The other closest West German cities are Hannover and Braunschweig has a famous university. Though East and West Germany are unified since 1989 the hotel prices are still cheaper in the eastern sector. I have given a link to all hotels in Magdeburg that help you chose one with facilities you need and the price range. Most hotels provide Wi-Fi. http://www.hotelscombined.com/City/Magdeburg.htm If you need any further information please let me know. It doesn’t cost me anything to pass on information and I would be pleased to tell you what I know and those I can easily find out. Wish you all the best.
By: sandeep chaudhary on May 11, 2012 at 4:40 am Hi RajPriya, I’ve posted many times, but did not get response frm ur side, Please let me knw d procedure for work permit/ Pr of Germany as I have 3+ yrs of Exp. as a Soft engg and i have done M.Techin CSE, and my wife is pursuing Ph.D. in Education that is abt to complete. so Please provide me info to settle down in Germany on the basis of details provided above. On the basis of Ph.D. , Is it possible to settle down in Germany. Thanks, Sandeep
By: Rajpriya on May 11, 2012 at 5:13 am Hi Sandeep, I am really sorry I missed your postings. Of course any one can stand a chance of coming to Germany based on their qualifications. You and your wife seem to have those. If you go through some of the answers I have given earlier on similar questions on NRI you will find most answers. That would avoid repetition of the similar information. If you look at the link I had given for “IT Specialist “ above you will know Germany is relaxing regulations for Non-EU citizens to obtain employment. In addition to all the previous link here is new one for all the information you may require. If you need any information you can not find on this link please post your need. http://www.bund.de/EN/Working-In-Germany/Working-In-Germany_node.html
By: sandeep chaudhary on May 11, 2012 at 5:44 am Thanks ! Raj, Please let me knw, Is Ph.D. provide extra value to settle down in Germany / How we can search job on the basis of our qualification
By: Rajpriya on May 11, 2012 at 7:18 am Hi Sandeep, The higher you are qualified better are the chances provided you find vacancies in the particular field you want to work for. Unfortunately, I am not in a position to find the exact jobs or the vacancies that would suit you or anyone else. The best way is to Google search with different combinations of words pointing to the type of jobs you are looking for. However I must emphasize that to get into specialized jobs you would need an excellent command of the German Language. Opportunities to get jobs to work in English might not be that easy. It is not possible to settle down in Germany based on qualifications. Getting employment is the one and only way. All the Best
By: Rajpriya on May 11, 2012 at 7:26 am @Avneet, Sorry I missed answering you. Use this link to get information ref. all German Universities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Germany
By: The NRI on May 11, 2012 at 10:04 am @Sandeep et al This article was never meant to create a platform for a German job forum. However, one of our readers (Rajpriya) has taken it upon himself, without any prompting from The NRI, to kindly assist some of the readers in pursuing a career / life in Germany. If he continues providing this voluntary service it will be out of the goodness of his heart. For anyone needing help I would request the following. 1. You do not ask obvious questions, e.g. how do I apply for a work permit, that can easily be researched even with a cursory search on Google. I would have thought that the basic qualification for any job is a sense of initiative. For someone with a doctorate this should have been obvious and your first port of call, and perhaps you could have asked a follow up question had you run into problems. 2. You must take the time to read through all previous comments to determine whether your query has already been addressed. Any comments that do not meet the above criteria will simply be deleted.
By: Nilay Bhattacharya on May 11, 2012 at 3:59 pm Hi Raj, Vielen Danke fuer Ihr Antwort.nun damals Als PRAKTIKANT hatte ich viel die Gelegenheit in 3 versch Firmen zu Arbeiten und wegen Familien Probleme musste ich zurueckkheren. Aber mit meine deutschekenntnisse ist es Ueberhaupt nicht moeglich etwas Richtiges zu finden. Ich have sogar eine Management Kurs gemacht als stipendierete vo Bundes Regierung. werde mich froehen wenn sie weiter Hinweisse geben konnten, mit freundlichem gruessen nilay
By: Rajpriya on May 11, 2012 at 4:30 pm Es ist schwierig, Arbeitsplätze aufgrund des Alters zu finden. Um eine Arbeitserlaubnis zu erhalten müssen Sie einen Arbeitgeber finden, der Ihnen einen Job gibt. Ich weiß wirklich nicht, wie man Ihnen helfen kann. Ich wünschte, ich könnte. Wissend, dass die Deutsche Sprachkenntnisse allein reicht nicht eine Job zu finden.
By: Avneet on May 11, 2012 at 6:05 pm Thanks Raj.
By: Akash on May 14, 2012 at 7:05 pm Hii Rajpriya, I am a B.Tech in Electronics and Telecommunication (2009). Till then I have been working with a leading IT consulting company. Now I want to pursue my Masters from abroad. Lately I am thinking of doing it from Germany. I have found some course in Electrical & Information Technology where medium is English. And I am also going to take a basic course in German from Goeth Inst in Kolkata. Now my question is … Do I have any chance of getting any kind of funding. The institutes dat I have selected need TOEFL score…If I plan to take admission on 2013 then what is the best time for me to take the TOEFL and start applying. Provided I have funding for 1 year.. is it possible to work and manage for the 2nd year… And what is the scope of Job after masters. Or will it be a good idea to first enroll in a College for german language for a few months then go for the Masters. It will be a great hlp…if u throw some light. Thanks..
By: Rajpriya on May 15, 2012 at 3:18 am @Akash First of all, if you have found courses offered in the English medium you need not have to follow any German language course before you are in Germany. The simple reason is that the course offered by Goethe institute can be expensive. If you can afford it then I would say why not. On the subject of your education being funded in Germany drop the following text in Google “Financial help for foreign Students in Germany” you will find enough and more information and much more than I can ever put to gether. In the same way use Google with “toefl score requirement for Germany” you will have all the information you need. Any one following full time education is allowed to work for 20 hours a week. Finding work depends on: in which city you are and what kind of work you are prepared to do. The question of scope after Masters has been answered too. You will have 18 months to find a job. If you are following your studies in the English medium you could follow a German language course while you are in Germany. However, if you have to do your Masters in the German Language it will absolutely essential to understand the language in which you are taught. Occasionally, I watch Bollywood movies, since I do not speak nor understand Hindi I laugh when the person seated next to me laughs and cry when this person cries and the actual reason I would never know. So much for ignorance. Having said that, the lyrics of “Roop thera Mustana” from the movie Aaradhana is child’s play for me though I could not tell you what they mean. Knowledge of the German language will always be an advantage if you decide to find a job and live here. Is there a TV program “DW” Deutsche Welle in India? If you follow this while learning German you can get an idea of the correct pronunciations.
By: Aniket on May 15, 2012 at 10:23 am Hi, I am planning to pursue MS in Computer Science from Germany. I have started with the applications towards the same as well. I want to know the exact situation w.r.t computer science studies in universities like Munich, Augsburg, Heilbronn etc. Also the most important dilemma in my mind is regarding the job prospects in germany in IT after completion on masters in CS. I would be very thankful if you can provide me some information regarding the above doubt. Background: B.E computer Engg University of Mumbai 67.22% aggregate 2 years experience at Infosys Thanks, Aniket
By: Rajpriya on May 15, 2012 at 4:00 pm @Aniket, I have to make one point very clear to everyone who wants to know about his chances of working in Germany. Please understand that I am in no way an expert on the German Job Market. When I am posed with questions like: would I be able to get a job in Germany after completing studies, I will not be able predict your chances. Your chances depend on yourself. I can only say try your luck. I posted the article that appeared in the local newspaper about the shortage of engineers and that the doors were being opened to citizens from Non-EU countries but not necessarily to Indians alone. There will be Chinese, Japanese and people from many countries wanting to come over. I have given enough general information on the many aspects from Studying, Migrating to, Living and Working in Germany. Using Google you could find most of the information.
By: Payal on May 16, 2012 at 12:12 pm Hi, I have been searching on google on how to attain work permit when you have the job offer with you already but things look messy to me, may be because google translator doesnt do good job on german sites:-(. Found few enthusiastic people here and though it would be useful to post my query here. We are Indians staying in EU already and working on Residence Permit and my husband is getting an opportunity to work in germany through inter company hiring. When I searched online for what might be the further steps to legal formalities, I found it confusing that we need to apply for residence permit first and then then work permit??? Found it strange coz when we moved to EU, we found the job first, got the work permit and consequently applied for Residence Permit. Can you pls clarify the process to me if you know about it.It would be of great help to me and my husband.
By: Rajpriya on May 16, 2012 at 2:23 pm @Payal, Let me ask you a few questions before I could give the correct answer. 1. In which country in the EU are you living at present? 2. On what type of Visa did you enter the country in which you are now? 3. On what basis were you granted a visa and to reside in that country? 4. For example if you have a Residence permit to Holland you will not get a permit to work in Germany though your movement between the two countries will not be restricted because you posses a Schengen States visa. 5. You cannot posses a Residence Permit to Holland and work in Germany. 6. You can only enter Germany with a residence permit issued by the embassy from your own country that endorses permission to find employment on your passport. 7. I do not know what type of entry visa you was granted and to what country. 8. If you are living in Germany you need an “Arbeitserlaubnis” to be able to work. 9. If you are working with out the “Arbeitserlaubnis” you are working illegally. 10. Only with an “Arbeitserlaubnis” you are medically insured with “gesetzliche Krankenversicherung” The statutory health insurance of Germany. 11. If you are not, then you have to insure yourself privately, which you may not be able to afford. 12. Is your husband living with you in the EU country? 13. To work in Germany you have to have Residence Permit to live Germany. So if you give me answers to all the above I can tell you what your problem is.